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06-19-03, 08:06 PM
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most people who claim something is CB and are not reputable are usually full of it.. lots of people try and sell stuff as CB when it isnt. Ask for proof, see parents, see eggs hatching. Most of the time if you're in tune with varanids you'll be aware of whos hatching what anyways. good luck
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06-19-03, 09:34 PM
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Very good point, as there aren't a load of breeders. Thanks.
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06-19-03, 10:51 PM
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Yes this is a good point, breeders (or anyone claiming to do so) should have pics of breeding pairs ,eggs and monitors hatching.
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06-19-03, 11:41 PM
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Originally posted by deadpinkphish6
I would not reccomend putting too many monitors in the sun, it's a risk you must decide to take but they can become terrors in once introduced to sunlight as I was told a few days ago on the forum mine became a total prick a day after I brought him out in the sun so I wouldn't reccomend it but it's your choice.
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Why would you want to deprive an animal of something that it would thrive on if you have the opportunity to provide it with such? These animals are basking lizards, they were born to be in the sun. I'm willing to bet your guy just perked right up and was feeling a lot better than he was after catching some vitamins and whatnot from the natural sun. People need to stop caring for their animals in ways that benefit their personal preferences rather than their animals needs. SUnlight is one of the most natural things a monitor, or any basking lizard can benefit from. I keep my iguana outside in the summer, and I believe this is the reason she is still kicking at 19 years of age. She becomes a lot more active and full of beans, and it is because she is getting her needs met to the max, doesn't matter how many UV bulbs and supplements you give your animals, nothing can compare to that of natural sunlight, and the results show, as you have experienced with yours! Apologies if this post has come across harshly... tone gets lost in type... it was truly not my intent
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06-20-03, 12:18 AM
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well said Linds! many times I read your posts, as I see it your an example. Kind regards
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07-13-03, 10:08 AM
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well said!
and should savs basking spot realy be 130-150!
i heard 120 and that what i keep mine at
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07-13-03, 10:14 AM
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you want a good starter monitor
the nile is the best go catch one that is about 2 feet long and watch him rip your arm off. LOL jk
i just bought a sav that is only about 7 inches long and hes really cool, we have definetly began to like me because he will no longer run from my hand.Hes great and i suggest him as a first timer hes my first too.
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07-13-03, 04:23 PM
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If you can find a baby, I would honestly suggest a sav. Ackies would be better, but they are way to over priced. I saw CBB advertised the other day for 500 dollars each! I bought a sav as my first monitor and it was probably the best way to get into the monitor world. They really are awesome.
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07-13-03, 05:27 PM
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Tabastifur, I completely agree.. I own both and still prefer savs.
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07-13-03, 05:47 PM
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Over-priced and being too expensive for YOU to own are 2 different things. In my opinion, all animals that we keep in captivity are way under-priced and under valued. Living things have a way higher dollar amount than what is currently on them in my books.
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07-13-03, 06:00 PM
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ackies Are Completely worth what you will pay for them If I were you I would invest in a trio Then you will make A fair chunk A of money from them and they are far more entertaining when kept together and they are always in demand so you wont have a problem selling them that's why you pay 500 each is because of the demand. supply and demand will ALWAYS control the market
Do think a albino ball python will be what its worth now later on Albino boa's were ONCE worth 30 grand a piece but not anymore...
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07-13-03, 07:56 PM
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Jeff; Thank you for your opinion. I'll be sure to write it down and show it to all of my friends and family.
Bryce; Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love ackies, I have a trio of yellow's myself and I can watch them for hours at a time. I just think that for what it costs to house baby ackies and feed them, they shouldn't be 300-400 each. They should be more like 150-200. You better believe that when my ackies start producing for me, I won't be charging 350 a peice, they'll be more like 150 a peice, and I'll still be making money!
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I own both as well, and I can't get enough of my sav!
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07-13-03, 08:15 PM
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By the time you produce eggs and hatch them, the market WILL be $150-200 a piece, so I wouldn't worry.
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07-13-03, 08:18 PM
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I just think that for what it costs to house baby ackies and feed them, they shouldn't be 300-400 each.
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Ha ha, unfortunately, this is NOT the criteria for what an animal costs. I can't believe you think that it is. A Pied BP costs $15,000CDN, yet probably costs $60 a year to feed. A green Anaconda costs well over $300 a year to feed, so by your standards green Anaconda should cost me $75,000 to buy. Ummmmm............nope. I can buy them for $90.
So please tell me again why you think that Ackies are too expensive. In fact, tell us all.
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07-14-03, 05:00 AM
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Originally posted by Jeff_Favelle
By the time you produce eggs and hatch them, the market WILL be $150-200 a piece, so I wouldn't worry.
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Not sure who you were directing this to...? Whats with all the negativity? Some people prefer one animal to another, this means what? they're incapable of breeding something? I personally dont even see the challenge with breeding these animals, I ve had mine for maybe almost two months now and have seen more prolific nature than seen in beardies...
I personally prefer larger bodied monitors, It's got nothing to do with cash value. I Do like Ackies, but far prefer my frilled dragons, or even a colony of water dragons.
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