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01-28-18, 09:33 AM
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Retic Breathing and Scale Problems
My reticulated python, Jasmine, has started to concern me greatly. Her breathing sounds very mucusy. She has repticarpet substrate, an under tank heater, a 35-watt heat bulb, and the humidity is at 26 when she is not in shed, and raised to 33 when she is in shed. I have tried raising her temp, from an average of 95 to 100. I have also raised the humidity due to her problems with shedding, which she is now shedding fully. She is currently showing signs that she is about to shed (cloudy eyes, dull skin). I am debating whether or not to take her to a vet. I am up to constructive criticism and I am willing to change anything to keep my girl healthy.
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01-28-18, 03:18 PM
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Re: Retic Breathing and Scale Problems
It sounds like your retic is suffering from a respiratory infection. I want to warn you that your humidity is very low, and this is most likely what caused it. Raise the humidity to 60% when she is not in shed, and 80% when she is in shed.
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01-28-18, 03:43 PM
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Re: Retic Breathing and Scale Problems
Thank You so much! I will raise the humidity right away.
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01-28-18, 06:22 PM
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Re: Retic Breathing and Scale Problems
kingolive... just a bit of advice. Firstly, the repti-carpet needs to go. Look into other substrates that will hold moisture better and easier to keep clean. Additionally, that heat bulb is baking your retic, unless you have it and the UTH on a thermostat, you'll never be able to regulate temps properly. Your retic needs a gradient of heat from high 70's on one end to high 80's on warm side. Lastly, yes, take to a qualified retile vet. The lack of humidity didn't cause the infection per se (that is either from bacteria, viruses, or fungi), but the quality of husbandry ( poor humidity, temps, etc) will cause the animal to be stressed and lower the ability to fight off infectious organisms. You will need an exam and most likely lab studies to determine the cause and best treatment for your animal.
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01-28-18, 08:10 PM
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Re: Retic Breathing and Scale Problems
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Originally Posted by MDT
kingolive... just a bit of advice. Firstly, the repti-carpet needs to go. Look into other substrates that will hold moisture better and easier to keep clean. Additionally, that heat bulb is baking your retic, unless you have it and the UTH on a thermostat, you'll never be able to regulate temps properly. Your retic needs a gradient of heat from high 70's on one end to high 80's on warm side. Lastly, yes, take to a qualified retile vet. The lack of humidity didn't cause the infection per se (that is either from bacteria, viruses, or fungi), but the quality of husbandry ( poor humidity, temps, etc) will cause the animal to be stressed and lower the ability to fight off infectious organisms. You will need an exam and most likely lab studies to determine the cause and best treatment for your animal.
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I agree, this all is very necessary. I hope your pet turns out okay.
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01-31-18, 11:56 PM
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Re: Retic Breathing and Scale Problems
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kingolive... just a bit of advice. Firstly, the repti-carpet needs to go. Look into other substrates that will hold moisture better and easier to keep clean. Additionally, that heat bulb is baking your retic, unless you have it and the UTH on a thermostat, you'll never be able to regulate temps properly. Your retic needs a gradient of heat from high 70's on one end to high 80's on warm side. Lastly, yes, take to a qualified retile vet. The lack of humidity didn't cause the infection per se (that is either from bacteria, viruses, or fungi), but the quality of husbandry ( poor humidity, temps, etc) will cause the animal to be stressed and lower the ability to fight off infectious organisms. You will need an exam and most likely lab studies to determine the cause and best treatment for your animal.
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I'm sure that's what DJC was meaning. I hope your baby feels better kingolive.
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02-05-18, 01:27 AM
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Re: Retic Breathing and Scale Problems
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kingolive... just a bit of advice. Firstly, the repti-carpet needs to go. Look into other substrates that will hold moisture better and easier to keep clean. Additionally, that heat bulb is baking your retic, unless you have it and the UTH on a thermostat, you'll never be able to regulate temps properly. Your retic needs a gradient of heat from high 70's on one end to high 80's on warm side. Lastly, yes, take to a qualified retile vet. The lack of humidity didn't cause the infection per se (that is either from bacteria, viruses, or fungi), but the quality of husbandry ( poor humidity, temps, etc) will cause the animal to be stressed and lower the ability to fight off infectious organisms. You will need an exam and most likely lab studies to determine the cause and best treatment for your animal.
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Too low of humidity can dry out the mucus membranes, causing damage, and opening them up to infections by destroying that protective layer. Low humidity can definitely be a cause of an RI (depending on how you look at it), retics should have constant high humidity of 70-80%+.
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02-05-18, 06:13 AM
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Re: Retic Breathing and Scale Problems
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Too low of humidity can dry out the mucus membranes, causing damage, and opening them up to infections by destroying that protective layer. Low humidity can definitely be a cause of an RI (depending on how you look at it), retics should have constant high humidity of 70-80%+.
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Not argue semantics, but the cause will be from a pathogenic organism. Without bacteria/virus/fungi, there will be no infection. The inciting event will typically be environmental (weather the keeper's husbandry, or a naturally occurring phenomena).
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02-05-18, 05:17 PM
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Re: Retic Breathing and Scale Problems
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Not argue semantics, but the cause will be from a pathogenic organism. Without bacteria/virus/fungi, there will be no infection. The inciting event will typically be environmental (weather the keeper's husbandry, or a naturally occurring phenomena).
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That's why I said it depends on how you look at it. Sure, the pathogen infected it, but they wouldn't have been able to get in if the humidity wasn't so low the snake's protective membranes were split open, and as long as the humidity is too low, it will be a constant battle to heal the infection.
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02-05-18, 10:47 PM
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Re: Retic Breathing and Scale Problems
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02-06-18, 01:36 PM
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Re: Retic Breathing and Scale Problems
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Exactly my thoughts.
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