Reputable monitor breeders? (Peach Throat wanted)

[Creep]

So i've been looking to add a peach throat monitor, but fnding one from a good breeder is proving difficult.

Don't recommend Reptile City or General Exotics, i will not buy from them.

LLL Reptiles recently had one but it seems they sold it.

Any clue where i can find someone reputable to buy from other than LLL reptiles?

[infernalis]

Have you looked on Kingsnake?

[Creep]

Originally Posted by infernalis

Have you looked on Kingsnake?

I looked and only found one, Outback Reptiles, i'll do some research on them. The monitors seem to be in good condition and coloration, though, they're imported.

[Creep]

Did some research on Outback Reptiles. Heard mostly good, some bad. They got one left, thnk i may give it a shot, gotta talk with the wife first though, she been thinking about getting something too.

Asking them some questions on live arrival guarantees, what it's eating, etc. will let you know how it all goes.

Thanks!

Edit: think my first response may of been eaten. Said i only found one on kingsnake by the name of outback reptiles. Monitors seem to be in good condition and coloration, they're juvies.

[smy_749]

There are no reputable US breeders of peachthroats. All of them come from the wild, including outback, LLL and everyone else on kingsnake.

There is a guy who breeds some indicus complex on the blackthroat monitor facebook group named Andrew L. cant remember how to spell the last name. But still, he doesn't do peachies either.

[Creep]

Originally Posted by smy_749

There are no reputable US breeders of peachthroats. All of them come from the wild, including outback, LLL and everyone else on kingsnake.

There is a guy who breeds some indicus complex on the blackthroat monitor facebook group named Andrew L. cant remember how to spell the last name. But still, he doesn't do peachies either.

Yeah i realize that now. It's a real shAme, gorgeous monitors and have a fairly good demeanor in terms of the more arboreal species. Bit fiesty at a younger age but tone down once they're a little more grown.

Wonder why no one breeds them.. I'll look into those black throats you were talking about, thanks.

[smy_749]

Originally Posted by Creep

Yeah i realize that now. It's a real shAme, gorgeous monitors and have a fairly good demeanor in terms of the more arboreal species. Bit fiesty at a younger age but tone down once they're a little more grown.

Wonder why no one breeds them.. I'll look into those black throats you were talking about, thanks.

I didn't mean for you to look into black throats, they can be a handleful. The guy who breeds them supposedly also breeds some of the indicus complex (which includes peachies) but I'm almost positive noone in the U.S. is breeding them because there is no need when the consumer can buy a cheaper wild caught one, and they don't readily breed in captivity.

[Creep]

Originally Posted by smy_749

I didn't mean for you to look into black throats, they can be a handleful. The guy who breeds them supposedly also breeds some of the indicus complex (which includes peachies) but I'm almost positive noone in the U.S. is breeding them because there is no need when the consumer can buy a cheaper wild caught one, and they don't readily breed in captivity.

Oh you're fine. I'd been looking at black throats off and on, but as far as preference goes i prefer the more slender built monitors. I was considering going nile several months back but they're one of the most aggressive. Any monitor an have a nasty attitude, they're wild animals c/b or not, but niles are more proneto aggression, as far as i've researched. Read that peachies can be tamed with some ease after allowing 2 weeks-ish to acclimate and then working on monitor-owner bond through regular maintenance, care, and a little handling here and there. Not excessively, like on a daily basis, but just every now and again.

Diet information seems to be debated. In my research someone compared them to savannahs diet wise, insects, fish, crawdads, mice being the absolute last dietary item. Someone else remarked feeding mice as a staple can cause a more bloodthirsty mo.itor, though the credibility of that i don't know.

I think i'll be sticking with a more insect, fish, and crawdad diet with mice and eggs as a treat. Also read rats are a bad idea, as thick coarse hair can be impacted. Comparing to savannahs again though, said they aren't meant to digest that.

[jarich]

Originally Posted by Creep

Oh you're fine. I'd been looking at black throats off and on, but as far as preference goes i prefer the more slender built monitors. I was considering going nile several months back but they're one of the most aggressive. Any monitor an have a nasty attitude, they're wild animals c/b or not, but niles are more proneto aggression, as far as i've researched. Read that peachies can be tamed with some ease after allowing 2 weeks-ish to acclimate and then working on monitor-owner bond through regular maintenance, care, and a little handling here and there. Not excessively, like on a daily basis, but just every now and again.

Diet information seems to be debated. In my research someone compared them to savannahs diet wise, insects, fish, crawdads, mice being the absolute last dietary item. Someone else remarked feeding mice as a staple can cause a more bloodthirsty mo.itor, though the credibility of that i don't know.

I think i'll be sticking with a more insect, fish, and crawdad diet with mice and eggs as a treat. Also read rats are a bad idea, as thick coarse hair can be impacted. Comparing to savannahs again though, said they aren't meant to digest that.

Thats pretty much rubbish about the mice making them more bloodthirsty, same with the hair causing impaction.

As for breeders, I know that Mike Stefani used to breed them in Chicago. Not sure if he does anymore or not. He has a company called Mike's Monitors.

[infernalis]

Creep - I feed my Savannah Monitors mice, rats & rabbits. They process the prey just fine.

[Pirarucu]

Honestly, I have yet to see any evidence that niles are "very aggressive". Flighty and easy to spook, yes, but not what I would consider aggressive. When scared they do what any animal will do.. If anyone believes otherwise then I'm all ears, but so far I have not seen any monitor besides Komodos that I would call aggressive.

Out of curiosity, what sort of enclosure are you planning to provide?

[murrindindi]

Originally Posted by Creep

Oh you're fine. I'd been looking at black throats off and on, but as far as preference goes i prefer the more slender built monitors. I was considering going nile several months back but they're one of the most aggressive. Any monitor an have a nasty attitude, they're wild animals c/b or not, but niles are more proneto aggression, as far as i've researched. Read that peachies can be tamed with some ease after allowing 2 weeks-ish to acclimate and then working on monitor-owner bond through regular maintenance, care, and a little handling here and there. Not excessively, like on a daily basis, but just every now and again.

Diet information seems to be debated. In my research someone compared them to savannahs diet wise, insects, fish, crawdads, mice being the absolute last dietary item. Someone else remarked feeding mice as a staple can cause a more bloodthirsty mo.itor, though the credibility of that i don't know.

I think i'll be sticking with a more insect, fish, and crawdad diet with mice and eggs as a treat. Also read rats are a bad idea, as thick coarse hair can be impacted. Comparing to savannahs again though, said they aren't meant to digest that.

Hi, when you say you`ve "researched", do you mean you`ve read some things but not actually tried them, in which case it`s not research as such, it`s just reading someone else`s opinions!
Nile monitors are no more defensive than most other species, again, it`s the opinion of someone who possibly didn`t know how to try and gain their trust (teach them you aren`t a threat). The word "aggressive" is used much too easily, and it`s unfair to the animals.
No Varanid or any other animal as far as I`m aware can digest fur, but a properly supported monitor will have no trouble passing it, so again to suggest "they`re not meant to eat that prey" is untrue.
As far as "taming", I can tell you it takes a lot longer than two weeks (unless you`ve found a new method, in which case please elaborate)!!??

[Pirarucu]

Originally Posted by murrindindi

Hi, when you say you`ve "researched", do you mean you`ve read some things but not actually tried them, in which case it`s not research as such, it`s just reading someone else`s opinions!
Nile monitors are no more defensive than most other species, again, it`s the opinion of someone who possibly didn`t know how to try and gain their trust (teach them you aren`t a threat). The word "aggressive" is used much too easily, and it`s unfair to the animals.
No Varanid or any other animal as far as I`m aware can digest fur, but a properly supported monitor will have no trouble passing it, so again to suggest "they`re not meant to eat that prey" is untrue.
As far as "taming", I can tell you it takes a lot longer than two weeks (unless you`ve found a new method, in which case please elaborate)!!??

Well said.

[Creep]

oh, ok, that clears that up for me then.

really? i thought savannahs ate more insects and other invertebrae than they do mammals. have no intention of ever owning one, so not exactly important for me to know about them specfically, but that's what i thought. edit: as for peaches, seems people frequently feed them a wide variety of mice, shrimp, insects, crayfish, frogs, etc.

as for niles, a lot of threads, sites, etc. that i've read from said they're more aggressive(than normal) than other species of monitors, more flighty, nervous, etc. i've made a custom enclosure, forget the dimensions but it takes up half the basement. i like to give lots of space, lots of hidey spots that are natural looking, i like a realistic environment.

as in research i've been reading for several months. forums, sites, care sheets, whatever i can find.

and no, i meant two weeks just letting it adjust in its enclosure after arrival/purchase, no handling at all, just your basic care routine, feed, water, misting, spot cleaning, etc. to actually form a bond takes a lot longer.


oh, also, i tried looking up mike's monitors and didn't come up with alot. saw a good guy threat on faunaclassifieds but no link to a site or anything.