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03-05-12, 06:53 PM
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Morelia Enjoyus Maximus
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Eggs vrs snake eggs??
So my oldest son is very allergic to chicken eggs. It's as bad as a peanut allergy. We are breeding (we hope) this year and we are wondering if the proteins that are in chicken egg whites( albumins, mucoproteins, and globulins)also exist in snake eggs. He wants to be a big part of all this and wonders if he needs to protect himself the same as if they were chickens ?
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03-05-12, 06:59 PM
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Re: Eggs vrs snake eggs??
I would say make sure he wears gloves and wash his hands good.
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03-05-12, 07:25 PM
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Morelia Enjoyus Maximus
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Re: Eggs vrs snake eggs??
Yup. Thats what we are doing even if these proteins are not there. Just good to know if they are.
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03-05-12, 10:31 PM
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Re: Eggs vrs snake eggs??
is there protien in the egg *shell*? does he break out or something when he touches eggs, or only if he eats them? I love eating eggs, but i can't have any of any kind or it gives me the worst most horrible stomach pain. And it IS the eggs. That's only if i eat them though. I haven't heard of anyone being allergic when they touch them! It's just a surprise *lol*
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03-05-12, 11:00 PM
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Re: Eggs vrs snake eggs??
the eggs are very different, and i wouldnt assume theyre similar in histamine reaction wise.
How allergic is he? if hes only a hives/etc from it, just let him touch them and see what happens, if its anything worse, just wear gloves just in case.
ingesting something youre allergic to is WAY more of an exposure than even say, bathing in a whole bath of it, so i wouldn't worry too much about him if hes not allergic to touching eggs
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03-06-12, 04:14 AM
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Re: Eggs vrs snake eggs??
Touch = bad rash. Injestion = call 911. His allergy is very severe. He carries a epi-pen at all times. We have no eggs in the house ever.
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03-06-12, 04:34 AM
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Re: Eggs vrs snake eggs??
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Originally Posted by Terranaut
Touch = bad rash. Injestion = call 911. His allergy is very severe. He carries a epi-pen at all times. We have no eggs in the house ever.
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ah one of those kinds. I'd just be "better safe then sorry" then, or figure out what exactly hes allergic to in the eggs and research if snakes have the same thing (possible)
Being allergic to eggs would suck! I eat about 8 a day
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03-06-12, 10:22 AM
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Morelia Enjoyus Maximus
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Re: Eggs vrs snake eggs??
Its albumins and mucoproteins. I love eggs too
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03-06-12, 10:46 AM
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Re: Eggs vrs snake eggs??
Yeah, I would just have him wear gloves and be careful. There's alot that he can do to help and be involved without touching the eggs at all!!
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03-06-12, 11:22 AM
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Re: Eggs vrs snake eggs??
Honestly, if its bad enough that you don't keep chicken eggs in the house you may want to reconsider letting him handle them.
How old is he?
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03-06-12, 11:32 AM
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Re: Eggs vrs snake eggs??
insignia100- I see your signature says your a vet!!
so, wouldn't a reptile egg and a poultry egg be significantly different from each other?? Different protiens and such??
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03-06-12, 11:51 AM
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Re: Eggs vrs snake eggs??
No, not a vet, but a vet student (2 more years and I'll have the Dr. in front of my name).
However, I can say that while there are some differences in the types of proteins, there are also a lot of similarities. It would not surprise me, given that birds and reptiles are closer evolutionarily speaking than chickens and mammals, if there were enough similarities in the proteins found in chicken and snake eggs to be a concern. Obviously its not something I would want to risk...
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03-06-12, 11:55 AM
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Re: Eggs vrs snake eggs??
eggs are eggs are eggs are eggs....
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03-06-12, 11:59 AM
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Re: Eggs vrs snake eggs??
Wear the gloves just incase but honestly I don't really see a reason aside from placing them in an incubator why they would be touched at all..
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03-06-12, 12:04 PM
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Re: Eggs vrs snake eggs??
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Originally Posted by insignia100
No, not a vet, but a vet student (2 more years and I'll have the Dr. in front of my name).
However, I can say that while there are some differences in the types of proteins, there are also a lot of similarities. It would not surprise me, given that birds and reptiles are closer evolutionarily speaking than chickens and mammals, if there were enough similarities in the proteins found in chicken and snake eggs to be a concern. Obviously its not something I would want to risk...
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Ok, that makes alot of sense, I did not take into account how close reptiles and birds are, speaking in an evolutionary sense.
Although, it's not like they are going to eat the snake eggs, and like I said before, there are alot of ways to help out without ever touching the eggs. My hubby helps me with my snakes all the time, and he has yet to touch an egg, I do that part!!
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