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09-04-11, 08:49 PM
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Antivenin/Antivenom information check
Does everybody agree with all the content on this site reguarding snake bite treatment and Antivenom. we have done a lot of research and we would like to have the feedback of any other knowlegable venomous snake owners or profesionals like ourselvs as to know if we have any false information we are tryin to help solve a huge problem and we need to be 100% correct when providing saftey information.
Last edited by infernalis; 09-04-11 at 09:08 PM..
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09-04-11, 09:07 PM
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Re: Antivenin/Antivenom information check
Firstly I highly recommend that anyone bitten by a venomous snake seek proper medical attention as soon as possible.
Treating something this life threatening yourself is gambling with your life.....
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09-05-11, 04:32 AM
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Re: Antivenin/Antivenom information check
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Originally Posted by infernalis
Firstly I highly recommend that anyone bitten by a venomous snake seek proper medical attention as soon as possible.
Treating something this life threatening yourself is gambling with your life.....
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For sure. Also, any antivenin that YOU own, is going to be ignored by the hospitals once you get there.
They simply will not trust that it is quality stuff, and that it was kept at proper temperature/conditions and is not expired.
For the most part, a tourniquet is a terrible idea, unless it is a venom powerful enough to kill you before you can seek medical assistance all you are going to do is concentrate the venom to your arm (assuming thats where you got bitten) and you will likely end up losing the arm. Staying calm, having a book in the hot room close to the exit that you can take with you, listing all your hots and their venoms and antivenoms and telling the person helping/taking you to the hospital which snake bit you will be the best thing you can do in most cases.
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09-05-11, 09:22 AM
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Re: Antivenin/Antivenom information check
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Originally Posted by stephanbakir
For sure. Also, any antivenin that YOU own, is going to be ignored by the hospitals once you get there.
They simply will not trust that it is quality stuff, and that it was kept at proper temperature/conditions and is not expired.
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not true... Maybe if you brought your antivenom in from the flea market and had no clue how its dosed/administered.
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09-05-11, 09:30 AM
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Re: Antivenin/Antivenom information check
Even if you sound knowledgeable, they will disregard any antivenin that you bring, at least in Canada. I went to my local hospital and talked to them about policies and that's what I was told.
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09-05-11, 09:38 AM
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Re: Antivenin/Antivenom information check
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Originally Posted by stephanbakir
Even if you sound knowledgeable, they will disregard any antivenin that you bring, at least in Canada. I went to my local hospital and talked to them about policies and that's what I was told.
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Canada may be the key word here.. The FDA offers several forms on the civilian storage and importation of antivenom. In order to completely fill out the second form you need a licensed MD that in the case of a bite will be the person to treat you to fill out and sign a few lines. There are professional ways of going about it. Like i said most MD's are not trained to know how to administer South Eastern Asian Polyvalent antivenom, or much less know the range of species this antivenom can be used for. With something as serious as your life the professional route should be the only route, anything else is down right irresponsible.
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09-05-11, 09:40 AM
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Re: Antivenin/Antivenom information check
Is the same in the UK - when you get your Venomous license you need to register with the local Emergency Dept and let them know what snakes you are keeping - they will then arrange for Antivenin to be available at short notice (tho for us most of the stock is about 4 hour from the hospital).
No UK doctor will inject you with ANYTHING that you supply yourself.
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09-05-11, 12:28 PM
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Re: Antivenin/Antivenom information check
I just did a reverse lookup, it's the same place in Mexico that tried pushing these vials on us before.....
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09-05-11, 01:17 PM
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Re: Antivenin/Antivenom information check
I remember the guy from before, but is this venom the same person? or are you referring to someone else?
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09-05-11, 02:24 PM
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Re: Antivenin/Antivenom information check
Not sick venom... an antivenom supplier.
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09-05-11, 02:26 PM
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Re: Antivenin/Antivenom information check
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Originally Posted by Snakey-Jay-BRB
Not sick venom... an antivenom supplier.
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I know that, I was referring to a person who a short time ago was trying to sell antivenom on the forums from Thailand or something.
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09-05-11, 02:54 PM
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Re: Antivenin/Antivenom information check
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Originally Posted by stephanbakir
I know that, I was referring to a person who a short time ago was trying to sell antivenom on the forums from Thailand or something.
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Has soon as i read the first post i figured i was the same person.
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09-05-11, 03:43 PM
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Re: Antivenin/Antivenom information check
No it was Mexico...
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09-05-11, 04:00 PM
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Re: Antivenin/Antivenom information check
either way his endeavor is pointless... Almost anywhere he goes on the internet someone is going to spot any flaws. This is just one example.
Anyways i didnt get to see the site.. I would like to so i can put my negative two cents in..
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09-05-11, 11:46 PM
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Re: Antivenin/Antivenom information check
Lol, theyre nothing if not percistant.
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