New Jaguar Carpet!

giambi4343 · 01-24-11, 10:53 PM

my first post here so i figured i should post a few pics of my new addition

i have been looking for one of these for a few months now. i found one for $125 from someone local that was moving in with his girlfriend, who hated snakes. i was a bit weary when i heard the price, then i checked him out and he looked amazing!!! i have him in my 29 gallon tank right now. he is about a foot and a half long and completely tame. he never bit the previous owner and proved that by holding him for over an hour and not even showing any hint of aggression. let me know what you guys think of my new baby

also, any suggestions to a name would be great. my girlfriend and i are arguing over a name haha.

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MY BABY BOY!!!!

infernalis · 01-25-11, 12:07 AM

Ch^4 · 01-25-11, 12:19 AM

Welcome! That's a handsome Morelia you have there...congrats! Mine also loves the highest place in her viv

Lankyrob · 01-25-11, 08:35 AM

Welcome, you may want to add a hide into the enclosure. My Jungle likes climbing around but also likes chilling in his hide as well.

Will0W783 · 01-25-11, 09:17 AM

Very handsome JCP you've got there-- I'm not sure he's a jaguar though. He is very high yellow, but the angular patches and pattern make me unsure that he is actually a jaguar. Can you post some more pics?

Lankyrob · 01-25-11, 11:41 AM

I must admit kim my first thought was IJ??? I am certainly no expert tho so wouldnt like to sway judgement.

Will0W783 · 01-25-11, 12:38 PM

Jaguars usually have a very reduced spinal pattern, and the dark areas are more rounded, almost like the bubbles in a lava lamp coming up the sides. The zig-zag angular pattern is more characteristic of a JCP, or jungle mix. It's possible the previous owner was sold the snake as a "jaguar sibling" or normal clutchmate to a jaguar, and didn't pay attention or didn't understand and sold it as an actual jaguar. For comparison, here's a shot of my female 75% jungle jaguar (she's not the brightest jag, but has great bloodlines and stripe genetics in her too). But you can see the differences in how the pattern is composed. I would be willing to say with a fair amount of certainty that the OP's snake is not a jaguar.

giambi4343 · 01-25-11, 01:12 PM

what would you say it is then? also, did i pay too much?!!??

Will0W783 · 01-25-11, 03:01 PM

I would say it's probably a high percentage jungle cross...probably a jag sibling. That means that someone bred a jaguar to a normal carpet and got some jaguars and some non-jaguars in the clutch. In that case, all the non-jaguars in the clutch are sold as "jag siblings". Some really cool stuff can pop up in those siblings though. Yours appears to have a cool reduced pattern going on there, and some very nice tipping. I don't think you paid too much- you paid fair market value for a very nice carpet! Jag siblings usually go for $125-175. Jaguars go for $400-900 depending on who bred them and how old they are.

marvelfreak · 01-27-11, 09:08 AM

Hello and welcome! I have to agree with Kim, but still a amazingly beautiful snake. Some Jag sibling turn out looking as sweet as Jags.

Will0W783 · 01-27-11, 11:09 AM

I know, Chuck. My jaguar sibling male, High Voltage, is one of my absolute favorite-looking snakes. There is some thought as to whether pattern abberancies can be carried in the siblings and passed on to future generations when they are bred back to a jaguar. A good friend of mine is working on one such project with a very neat abberant jaguar. Volt is that snake's brother and therefore might be quite the genetic spectacle if he finds something to the siblings.

giambi4343 · 01-27-11, 11:24 PM

he actually still doesnt have a name:P i cant think of an exotic one and i have been litterally thinking everytime i drive to and from work haha.

Will0W783 · 01-28-11, 08:29 AM

Naming them is the hardest part- you have to think of things until something just "clicks." I've got so many snakes that I'm running out of names, lol. I came up with Volt's name because shortly after I got him I was telling a friend about him and how he just looked "electric" with his bright glowing yellows. They said "Like the yellow on the Danger High Voltage signs?" And it just fit. So he's High Voltage, aka Volt for short. And when I found my female, I played off the electricity thing and named her Electra. But sometimes I've had snakes for a few months before coming up with the perfect name. You'll get it, just be patient and keep your thinking cap on..lol. He's a really neat looking carpet!

giambi4343 · 01-28-11, 11:19 AM

kim,
i am still holding you to your word for breeding

i am anxious to see what my male would produce?!

Will0W783 · 01-28-11, 12:28 PM

Lol, no problem! As soon as he's ready, we will work something out. He seems to be a very good-looking fellow. I've kind of got a carpet python sausage fest, with 4 males and only 2 gals, but one male I don't know the lineage and don't intend to ever breed, and one of the other males won't be ready for another 2 years probably.