Amazons in disguise???

**Aaron_S** · 12-28-02, 11:48 PM

Does anybody else think tha cooks tree boas are just really amazons?I kno they have different scientific names but still would like to know what others think.
Also I see both come through the pet store and from what I have seen they look so much alike.

Tim_Cranwill · 12-29-02, 01:01 AM

I don't know about these snakes in particular but the same could be said about many sub-species of many species of snake. Look at milk snakes for example. They almost all look alike to the untrained eye. The difference could be as slight as a scale count or their natural range.

Anyway, I don't knowthe answer to your question but I'm sure someone around here does

Jeff_Favelle · 12-29-02, 03:48 AM

Exactly. Look at Carpets. Species names are just a system of classification that HUMANS have created to make life easier (harder?) and quench our constant thirst to categorize and organize.

Linds · 12-30-02, 01:26 AM

Bascially everything floating around the market labelled as a Cook's Tree Boa is really an ATB. There are very few true cookii in captivity, they are a dull uniform brown, similar to garden phase amazons, and are mainly found in European collections, and a few down in the states. The only way of distinguishing them from an ATB is by means of a scale count. The captive population being so low, I am unaware of anyone currently breeding them in N. America, and they are no longer being exported from their home range. It's surprising how many dealers and stores still label ATB's as Cook's.........

Terrariumweb.co · 12-30-02, 02:06 AM

Well i got the the big atlas for reptiles and amphibians, and if i read about corallus they do mention a COOKI, but no futher info ,........ The place 2 pics and 0ne of them looks like a normal garden phase, but the other one looks real cool and almost no pattern, and brown , with some light spots !
I want to add another question,..........explain to me enydris and hortulanus, i know its the same, but why has it been changed ? I think cooki is a name a specific breeder gave it,............and now everyone uses it !
Ill take some pics from the Atlas for you to see !!!
Ill hope we will solve this problem !!!
Jeroen (holland)
Sorry for my bad english !!

pic from a book "CORALLUS ENYDRIS COOKI"