Weight of my B.P

Ray · 02-14-05, 04:23 AM

Hi guys,

I am not so happy about the wait of my new male and female B.P
My female is 4 years old and weights a little over 1100 gr.
and my male is 3 years old and weights 505 gr.
Help!!! what should i do about this light weights of my B.P??

Thanks Ray.

HumphreyBoagart · 02-14-05, 04:39 AM

What are you feeding them and how often?
Are they CB or WC?
Hump.

Ray · 02-14-05, 04:51 AM

Hi Humphrey,

They are CB.The person wher i bought them from always fed them
mice every 2 weeks.I feed the female every week 1 rat and the male every week 1 mice.But i looks like they want more than that every week.Is it also possible to breed with them next year
because ther weight is so low??

Thanks for your comment humphrey.

Ray,

HumphreyBoagart · 02-14-05, 05:08 AM

I would imagine that part, if not all, of the weight problem is directly related to feeding them mice. Get the male switched over as soon as possible to rats too. They probably look like they want more, because they probably do want more. Give them a rat that is equal to or 1.5 times the thickest part of them. If your male won't eat rats, try giving him a mouse as usual to get him in the feeding mode and then throw in a rat that is just a bit bigger than the mouse, and see what he says to that. I find it works like a charm to get them to switch over.
As far as them being breedable next season, for sure, they are probably ready now, but I would try and get some more weight on them first as the female will more than likely cease feeding after ovulation. You're better off to just wait and get a good body weight on her first and then try next season.
Hump.

Ray · 02-14-05, 06:51 AM

THANKS HUMPHREY!!!

I whas thinking the same to feed the male little by little a bigger
rat.I am gonna try this and hope it will work.
The female has no problems with rats. I give her rats that are about 16 weeks old.They are just as thick as the famele ore mabey little thicker.
I am also glad that you guys help me and that i can lurn a lot from you all.

Humphrey how much must they weight next year so i'll can breed with them?? I ask this Becourse they are so light right now.

Thanks for your time Hump..

Ray,

Markus Jayne · 02-14-05, 07:17 AM

Hi Ray!

It's always nice to hear from ball python lovers from all parts of the world. You write very good english. I wish I could speak another language.

Regarding your ball pythons. Breed your female! Yes you heard me right. Breed her. Sometimes when I have females that stall in the growth department, I breed them and for some reason they start to feed much better. A 16 week old rat sounds very big for such a small female. The biggest rats I feed are 4 weeks old and I feed every week. If they take one easily and they look like they want more, I give them another one. Two is generally my max, with few exceptions.

Your male is ready to breed as well. Size is really not an issue. It's more of an age thing.

Females need weight and energy to produce viable eggs. If she was never bred, she might be saying to herself, "why get big and put on weight? What's the point?" Give her a reason to put on the feed bag. Breed her! She could easily be ready this fall.

Hope this helped.

Mark

Ray · 02-14-05, 08:03 AM

Hi Markus,

Thank you!! It's still hard to write english.But i will do my best.
I'am so glad that you guys take the time for me.I can better
read english than write it hahaha.
But you are sure that i can breed them this year??So the only thing is that they must gaining weight right now??
I must sey they look a lot better then when i bought them.
And i also hope it will workout for me this year to breed them.
That would be somting

I mean 6 week rats and not 16 week rats.Sorry

Markus your site looks real great:thumbsup: And you have very
beautiful B.P.And i'am also gonna read your caresheet.looks
interesting.

Thanks Ray.ps the male is 1.10 cm and the
female between 1.30 and 1.40 cm.

HumphreyBoagart · 02-14-05, 12:52 PM

Hey Ray,
You're welcome and thank you for appreciating the help, so often on here people will ask for help and you try and give it to them, but they already have it set in their heads what they want to hear. They will either disrespect you or so no appreciation whatsoever, let alone a thank you. It's people like you that make me feel good about trying to help others out, as opposed to those that are just rude and disrespectful when you put so much effort into trying to help them. They make you feel like not wanting to help anyone at all. It makes me feel very good, even if I didn't help the problem at hand, to know that my efforts weren't a waste and that they were appreciated. Thanks Man.

HumphreyBoagart · 02-14-05, 12:52 PM

Whoa!?! that was weird. I was in the middle of typing and it just sent my reply. Sorry for the double post. I would have just edited the rest of what I was saying on to the first one, but there was two copies of it. I tried deleting the second one but it wouldn't let me, so I just edited it to this!

Anyways, what was I saying?
Oh yeah, I agree with Markus they will be sexually mature now and able to breed now. I just suggested waiting because I didn't know if they were just small or if they were at an unhealthy weight. Maybe you could post pics if possible so we could see their body size.
LOL! I think that you mean 1.3m and 1.4m maybe. If they are 1.3cm and 1.4cm they are about the lenglth of the line at the end of this sentence ____! If you did mean cm, you were right they are small for their age! LOL!
Hope I helped some.
Hump.

nita · 02-14-05, 01:40 PM

At 505g I can't see a snake being 1.3 m or 1.4 m!! That would be a very skinny snake. That would mean that the smallest snake is only 4ft 4" so at only 505g that would be extremely skinny. My biggest guys at 2000g are in that length range and are not skinny not fat so if I quartered their weight I'd be counting ribs. I'm not sure what 1.3cm was supposed to mean but can't see it logically being m instead.

greenman1867 · 02-14-05, 02:18 PM

Actually he said the Male was 1.1m or 3' 7". Still a bit skinny but not as drastically as you might think.
Pics would be great though.

Shawn

Ray · 02-14-05, 04:02 PM

Thanks for your kind words humphrey.

hahahaha (lol) Yes they are 1.10 meter and 1.3 meter.
I know that the shed of the male is 1.10 meter.But i dont know if this is the length of the snake itself.???
And yes i know what kind of people you mean.Here in holland whe
have lots of them.In the and they all know better. thats why i think it's great that you guys help me.So i can lurn a lot more about B.P.hahahah but the big problem is that i must think rael hard to write this down(lol).I'll also try to post some pictures.But i have a problem with that to.But i'll try.
Can you se the pics???

cheers Ray.i'll write some more tomorrow becours
it's a little late right now.Guys thanks for your time

yes yes yes !!!! hahahah it works.

HumphreyBoagart · 02-14-05, 04:36 PM

Greenman: actually he said:
"Thanks Ray.ps the male is 1.10 cm and the
female between 1.30 and 1.40 cm."

but either way we know he meant meters not cm's.

Ray: They look like they are a healthy body weight to me, not too skinny at all. I'd go ahead with trying to breed them this year.
Good luck.
Hump.
PS. Are you saying "yes, yes, yes it worked" talking about the pictures working or getting the male eating rats? either way congratulations! : ) both can be a real chore!

greenman1867 · 02-14-05, 06:05 PM

Ya I was referancing this post

Quote:

Originally posted by nita
At 505g I can't see a snake being 1.3 m or 1.4 m!! That would be a very skinny snake. That would mean that the smallest snake is only 4ft 4" so at only 505g that would be extremely skinny. My biggest guys at 2000g are in that length range and are not skinny not fat so if I quartered their weight I'd be counting ribs. I'm not sure what 1.3cm was supposed to mean but can't see it logically being m instead.

moot point anyways,

Shawn

Ray · 02-15-05, 03:36 AM

Hi hump,

Yes i whas meaning uploading the pictures..And when the male starts eating rats I'll let you know.I hope he does eat rats.
In the first picture the b.p wher to together in one cage.
But now the are separated.
Hump what is the best time to introduce them to itsother for breeding them??

Thanks Ray