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11-11-04, 11:24 PM
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Join Date: Jan-2003
Location: Ottawa, Canada
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Classifieds Reminder
Hey guys...
Lately we've been seeing a TON of people reposting ads for the same animals more than once a month...this is just a reminder to let you know that only ONE ad for the SAME animal/animals are allowed each month. Duplicate ads will be taken down.
These are taken straight out of the TOS:
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sSnakeSs.com Classified Forum Rules.
Do NOT post more then 1 ad for each species of animal(s) you have for sale.
You may post your animal for sale ONCE in the month. If you post the same animal for sale more then once in the month, your ad will be taken down
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This helps keep new ads fresh on the newer pages longer, cuts down on the clutter and makes it fair for everyone.
Replying to your ads to state changes or the fact that an animals is sold IS allowed (doing it to bump up ads is not), however the feature is currently disabled and we are working to fix this...
If everyone could skim the classifieds rules before posting ads, it would make things better for everyone.
They can be found here: http://www.ssnakess.com/forums/showt...&threadid=8018
If anyone has any complaints or questions feel free to PM a Moderator, but I'd like to point out that the classifieds are FREE and available to all, which is more than you get out of most herp sites.
Thanks for your patience and cooperation
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"Wanting people to listen, you can't just tap them on the shoulder anymore. You have to hit them with a sledgehammer, and then you'll notice you've got their strict attention." - John Doe, Seven
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11-12-04, 01:55 AM
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Join Date: Aug-2002
Location: Ontario
Age: 46
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While we're reminding people of things, I'll just throw out a reminder that we ask you all to keep your Signatures no longer then 4 lines.. We've been noticing a few in the 6+ range in the last couple of days.. Thanks for the cooperation everyone
-Matt
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11-12-04, 02:02 AM
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Join Date: Oct-2004
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Age: 36
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Seems quite fair to me!
Matt K - I have been to other forums where they allow IMG links in profiles.....all I have to say is it is QUITE annoying. Not only are they HUGE...but takes up HALF the stinking page. I like the 3 line rule much better.
Thanks,
B.U.
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11-12-04, 02:05 AM
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Location: Ontario
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Yeah, I agree.. Some people are very moderate when it comes to their sigs and have a small banner or whatever, but others add like 12 different sig banners and you have to scroll down for 2 minutes just to get to the next post.. It IS annoying..
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11-12-04, 02:13 AM
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Join Date: Jun-2003
Location: Calgary, AB
Age: 48
Posts: 5,638
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Re: Classifieds Reminder
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[i]Originally posted by HeatherRose
Replying to your ads to state changes or the fact that an animals is sold IS allowed (doing it to bump up ads is not), however the feature is currently disabled and we are working to fix this...
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So let me get this straight... we ARE allowed to use a feature that is currently disabled, but we aren't allowed to use the only alternative to the currently disabled feature?
Am I the only one who sees a VERY big problem with this?
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11-12-04, 02:15 AM
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You WILL be allowed to reply to your Ads SOON.. However, That is NOT the 'only alternative' as I am SURE you have noticed the 'edit' feature that you have?????
-Matt
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11-12-04, 02:18 AM
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So let me get this straight... we ARE allowed to use a feature that is currently disabled, but we aren't allowed to use the only alternative to the currently disabled feature?
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Looks like it.
Did I mention that we're WORKING ON IT and they're FREE
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11-12-04, 02:31 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Matt_K
[B]You WILL be allowed to reply to your Ads SOON.. However, That is NOT the 'only alternative' as I am SURE you have noticed the 'edit' feature that you have?????
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Well, the edit feature doesn't exactly make the post show up when someone does a search for new posts, does it? Sometimes new information is just as valid as a new post. Who reads old posts that they've already seen? I don't. I use the "search for new posts" feature, as do many other people here. That means if I slash the price on something I'm advertising, many people miss that.
Would it not make more sense, if someone posts a new ad for the same animal, to delete the OLD ad? That's what I do on the TARAS forums, and it works quite well. Just a suggestion, please don't crucify me.
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11-12-04, 02:41 AM
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Would it not make more sense, if someone posts a new ad for the same animal, to delete the OLD ad
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Because we would have duplicate ads constantly. The way the classified ads are run now, it's free of clutter, easy to read, and fair to everyone. I put up this post because I was moving 3-5 duplicate posts per day, and this is only myself.
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That's what I do on the TARAS forums, and it works quite well.
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Then why not just use the TARAS forums if ssnakess isn't up to your standards? This isn't TARAS, it's ssnakess.
If you know that edited classifieds aren't found in the New Posts feature, then browse the classifieds once in a while. If you choose to browse the site that way, that's up to you. I don't, and I catch every ad no problem. People who edit their ads often edit the subject line adding "new price", or "updated", and these ads are NOT at all easily missed.
I originally had this thread locked because people like yourself will ALWAYS find something to complain about with this generous, free service...why can't some people just accept that this is the way things are done?
This is just a reminder to read the rules.
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11-12-04, 02:51 AM
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Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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How hard is it to simply go to the Classifieds and just search them? If someone is looking to buy something...they arent going to stop at the New Posts.
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11-12-04, 03:02 AM
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I also use the "View New Posts Since Last Visit" button, and, although I don't view the classifieds much here (since I'm not located in Canada), I know that whenever I DO look at classifieds, I don't usually view the same ones over and over.
I know what you mods are trying to say, but I also think that Ken has a valid point. Why couldn't you allow the new post to remain if it has been altered, and delete the old one? You wouldn't always have to do this, but just until the bugs are worked out. That way, people who change their ad will also get a fair chance of it being viewed.
Then, when the reply is working again, it will then only be allowed to update info, and you can go back to deleting duplicate posts? Wouldn't this be helpful to both parties, the members and the mods?
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11-12-04, 03:17 AM
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Join Date: Aug-2002
Location: Ontario
Age: 46
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The problem in that is that too many people post 'new' ad's stating that the animals are 'still available' or, 'here's the pics for the ad below'..
I also understand where you guys are coming from in that we could just delete the old ads, but why even have the rule of only posting once a month if we're going to delete the old ads and leave the new ones?? People will post a new ad claiming that it's an update when in actuality, it's the exact same post.. Know what I mean???
All we're asking is that everyone wait it out and be patient while we get the reply feature working again... This way, when you have a legit reason to reply to your ad, you can do so.. However, people that reply to their ad with, 'bump' or 'still available' will notice their ads will be taken down, as it's not fair to others who actually follow the rules of the classifieds..
-Matt
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11-12-04, 03:49 AM
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That I agree 100% on. If it is just to 'bump' it, then delete it. But if someone legitimately posts an update, why punish them when the site is not allowing them update?
If a new post is deleted, the only way to know if it is not new, is to find and view the old one. Wouldn't it be just as easy to delete the old one if the new post is indeed a true update? Afterall, one would have already had to find the old ad.
Just trying to find a happy medium.
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11-12-04, 04:07 AM
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Age: 40
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heather for a mod your pretty quick to jump on people and tell them not to use ssnakess. This isnt the first time ive seen you post somthing like that, I think Ken was just trying to give you guys some Ideas because he has experience with other forums. I just think that reply was kind of uncalled for.
*edit* we all know the classifieds are free and we appreciate it, it doesnt need to be rubbed in our faces everytime a discussion starts
Last edited by concept3; 11-12-04 at 04:09 AM..
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11-12-04, 08:18 AM
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Location: ON
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Since each animal can only be advertised once a month, an ad being updated with new info could be 3-4 weeks old. While not everyone uses the "view new posts" feature (alhtough I do), how many people browse through the last months worth of ads on a regular basis? Right now there's about 100 ads from November, and we're only on the 12th. Your suggestion seems to be that I read the subject lines of 100+ ads regularily, and try to guess wether they've been updated or not.
If the feature is going to be fixed, cool. In the meantime, I think Ken made a pretty good suggestion, so I cant really understand why he's being told to bugger off.
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