Motley with some pattern on the belly?

AgaR · 05-08-04, 03:12 PM

weird....
have you ever saw that before??
Ciao
Alex

gonesnakee · 05-08-04, 04:14 PM

Yep hundreds of times, I just call them regular Corns though. People are always grasping at fancy "labels" more often than not just to adjust the price. I find that almost all the Corns I produce have some motley type pattern from the head for the first part of the body. Don't quote me but in order to be "officially" considered a "Motley" they aren't supposed to have any pattern at all on their bellies right? Anyhow irreguardless it is a Sweet looking specimen & could have some good breeding potential in reguards to offspring. Good Luck with it. Mark

Simon · 05-08-04, 07:18 PM

Yup I have seen a lot of those too.
Most of the time motley does have plain belly patterns. But with years of breeding the random belly checked motley have been proven out too.

So right now we are also finding out that some true motleys DON'T HAVE TO HAVE plain belly patterns. There are some true motleys that have patterned belly..even more than the anery motley that you have there.

Hope this helped a bit

AgaR · 05-08-04, 09:55 PM

Thx guys

Ciao
Alex

Katt · 05-09-04, 09:28 AM

Even though motley and plain belly are seperable, I just can't call a snake with a checkered belly motley at all. Motley coupled with plain belly makes for a real nice looking snake.

I say yours is a mot, there's not a whole lot of checkering going on.

gonesnakee · 05-09-04, 01:09 PM

For the Corn Gods LOL What officially is the definition of a Motley? I, like most, look at it & say yah or nah, but I'm mostly just going by my opinion. What do you "serious Corn folk" use for your guidelines so us normal Cornfolks have something more to go on. Mark

vanderkm · 05-09-04, 08:34 PM

Some genetic motleys have checked bellies and lack the clearly connected dorsal saddles of typical motleys - other main clue on this one is the reduced side markings that may be blended into stipes along the sides (looks like this one just has reduced blotches).

Personally I think the best assurance that one of these less than ideally marked motley patterns is based on parents. I would be more confident calling one like this a motley is if I knew both parents were motley or it it had been proven through breeding trials - treating the motley pattern as a simple recessive (not getting into how it inter-relates with striped).

Likely Simon can add more detail on this -

mary v.

gonesnakee · 05-10-04, 11:58 AM

Thx Mary! Simon? I guess I could get out my Cornsnake manual & read what the Love's have to say LOL, but then everyone here won't be able to share. Mark