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06-30-03, 10:52 AM
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Pure Suriname
How can you know if a Suriname is "pure" blood?
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06-30-03, 01:17 PM
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You have to trust the breeder not to lie to you...or have documentation of the country of exportation. You can't do a scale count or anything like that because Suriname's, Guyana's, Brazillian's are all B.c.c so unless you know where it came from you can't tell. Now you can usually eyeball it and tell suri's from guyana's but thier natural ranges are close to each other in some spots and can looks similar. Here is my rant now Keep the genetic lines clean please, I hope you find some pure suri's and then keep them that way.
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06-30-03, 03:04 PM
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Hi colonel!
I own a breeding pair of Suriname and you can be shure i'm gonna keep the line clean. I'm not an hybrid producer.I'm looking for albinos but only from Suriname pure blood. I don't wanna hear anything about those hybrid cash money maker!
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06-30-03, 03:16 PM
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The only surefire way of knowing a suri is 100% pure is by picking it out of Suriname yourself As COlonel SB mentioned, the best way it to buy from a very reputable source for CBB animals, or you can get imports and hope that they haven't been mislabelled en route to you. Appearances alone are totally unreliable.
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06-30-03, 03:29 PM
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Hi linds!
Where do you think the breeders took their snake at first men. It took some wc to produce cb.
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06-30-03, 03:41 PM
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If Suriname's are indistinguishable from other BCC, why are they more expensive? What advantages/disadvantages do they have? Are they bigger? Smaller?
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06-30-03, 07:21 PM
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So, you can have a Suriname boa in Guyana and a Guyana boa in Suriname. Maby they are the same like and show some color difference from a region to another. If y understand well, you take a breeding pair of bcc who look similar and your "ok".
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06-30-03, 07:35 PM
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Well, not really. You could take a BCI and BCC, and they might look the same, but you sure as heck wouldn't have pure babies. The only example I could think of would be to breed an amazon basin tree boa to an emerald... they are the same sub species, and you might get some that look similar, but why contaminate the gene pool?
Invictus - I'm not sure why they are more expensive, but my gues would they are less common, harder to keep in captivity (less forgiving up husbandry mistakes), possibly harder to breed?, they get bigger, and are often redder.
Zoe
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06-30-03, 07:38 PM
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Guyanas and Suris are, IMHO exactly the same snake. There are two trains of thoughts on this subject: the first being they are the same snake (after all, snakes don't understand manmade borders ), and the second being that they are two different types of BCC. The people that believe the latter typically apply the belief that suris are pink, and guyanese are purple. All the while, many pink guyanas are exported, as well as many purple suris. That is why nobody will be able to tell if it came from Suriname or Guyana... but really if you look at the map, they are all one in the same But to please the purists, most breeders, even that follow the belief that they are the same snake, still follow the borders, and breed snakes eported from suriname to others of the like, and same with guyanese.
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Originally posted by chuck911jeep
Hi linds!
Where do you think the breeders took their snake at first men.
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Huh?
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07-01-03, 10:03 AM
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Exactly right linds, this is why B.c.c is such a confusing subspecies to work with. Like she said the snakes don't know man made borders, so your best bet is to get some sweet lookin B.c.c that look similar ie: colour and pattern and you should be fine.
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07-01-03, 11:02 AM
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Thank's everybody!
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07-05-03, 05:04 PM
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also to confuse the issue, i've been told many snakes from guyana get exported from suriname. I'm with linds, suri's and guyans are the same snake. the snakes were there before the boarders they're the same species and mixing a guyan and a suri is not the same as mixing a Bcc and a Bci
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