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05-13-03, 04:39 PM
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Join Date: Mar-2002
Location: southern ontario
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pet peeve
if you can not afford a separate enclosure for all your animals dont get another animal. i know its sometimes hard but think about the animals why do you wanna stress them out.
me personally i make sure i have the setups ready then i go get the animals.
this started by the constant asking of can i keep 2 boa's 2 pythons a boa and a python together
now if we all say NO you cant are you gonna listen or are you gonna do it anyways?
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05-13-03, 04:44 PM
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Hold on...what are you getting to? You aren't making any sense at all.
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05-13-03, 04:50 PM
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Hes saying it drives him nuts when people house 2 snakes in 1 enclosure!
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05-13-03, 04:51 PM
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yes thats was what i was driving at
thanks jeff
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05-13-03, 05:02 PM
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Personally i dont like when i see it either, unless its at a pet store for resale or maybe for temporary housing... You right though, its best to fight the urge them to splurge and not have a proper habitat available for your purchase.
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05-13-03, 05:06 PM
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It think that is a HUGE over generilazation ...
U can house many many many animals together.. it just depends on what animals...
I house my Savanahs together.. I have three cages.. my main one has 1 male 3 female.. do u think that is wrong.. I see no problems at all...
I house right now my two rocks python together.. there not of breeding age yet and it gives em a huge cage by being together.. I see no problem again....
Off breeding season .. I house my adult females (two) coastal carpets together.. my males seperatly.. whats wrong with that? ..
I don't mix species but I think you are putting everyone in the same boat here..
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05-13-03, 06:33 PM
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Yeah I agree with you 100% on the monitor / lizard thing... I also dont see a problem with housing snakes together nessessarily BUT it also depends on how detailed your records are etc... Its very hard to monitor and keep track of defecations etc if you have more then 1 animal per cage IMO....
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05-13-03, 07:37 PM
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I don't see an issue with keeping multiples of the same species together depending on whether they're teritorial, canibalistic and they have plenty of space to roam and hide with out stressing out the other animal. Of course you should monitor them closer when you do this, you can usually tell which snake shed by seeing who was in blue a few days before. And then there's going to be exceptions to the rule where some animals just won't get along regardless, currently out of 20 snakes we have 2 boa's 3 ball pythons and 2 corn snakes (all juveniles) housed in 3 cages. Will they be kept together for life? No, as they get bigger they'll be housed seperately. we also seperate them to feed to avoid accidents (each one has it's own feeding box). Often we spent more on a bigger cage to house a couple animals then what we would have spent for smaller multiples. The animals will let you know if they're stressed by the situation, you just need to watch and listen to them and that's something you would normally do anyways. The only thing I've found more difficult is tracking defications.
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05-13-03, 10:14 PM
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Join Date: Sep-2002
Location: Victoria,BC, Canada
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UGH! THE GRAMMAR! MY HEAD! OWWWWW! IT HURTS! hahaha, it was hard getting around you first post there.
I do not like it when people keep multiple animals in one enclosure if they are not social animals. Like Bearded dragons, and many similar lizards, many small geckos, some insects, anoles, LTGL, etc. But if your going to keep multiple un-social animals, use a divider that not only divides the cage, but also keeps them from seeing each other.
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05-14-03, 08:15 PM
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I have housed everything seperatly but I have talked with Dave Barker and he told me that he house's childrens pythons together year round and I know of a few others that house different types of pythons (of the same species) together.......I agree that you shouldn't house 2 snakes of different species together..
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05-14-03, 09:35 PM
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I don't really see a problem with keeping two snakes in the same enclosure....with conditions. The problem I have is people keeping boas and pythons together( things like that). I have housed baby burms two to a cage, never had a problem. I keep very detailed records, and yes, it is harder to keep track of BMs. I can tell my animals apart easily, so I have never had a problem.
As they get larger, they of course get their own enclosures each. Also, I do house difficult feeders seperate (like ball pythons, always one per enclosure), and any aggressive snakes are always house alone. Would not want to try to manuver one while the other is trying to kill me (lol).
While it is desirable to always house all snakes seperately, there are also occasions where it is fine to do otherwise. Just use common sense when doing it.
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