What snake is this? Thanks

Idontknow · 08-28-13, 09:03 PM

Does anyone know what snake this is and if it is venomous?
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infernalis · 08-28-13, 10:19 PM

I am confused, you list your country a Yugoslavia, yet when I do a back check, it says you are in Charlotte N.C. here in the USA.

Looks as if someone has killed a harmless water snake.

ErikBush97 · 08-29-13, 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by infernalis

I am confused, you list your country a Yugoslavia, yet when I do a back check, it says you are in Charlotte N.C. here in the USA.

Looks as if someone has killed a harmless water snake.

Either a proxy or he lied. I'd guess he killed it out of fear, and asked questions later

Doug 351 · 08-29-13, 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ErikBush97

Either a proxy or he lied. I'd guess he killed it out of fear, and asked questions later

No doubt. Kill first and ask questions later. People are always killing "Copperheads" and bragging about it in my neighborhood. Poor rat snakes can't catch a break.

ErikBush97 · 08-29-13, 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Doug 351

No doubt. Kill first and ask questions later. People are always killing "Copperheads" and bragging about it in my neighborhood. Poor rat snakes can't catch a break.

My friends know I am into reptiles, but still think it's cool to brag about that... (We don't have copperheads, but they still find satisfaction in killing innocent and harmless animals). Well... Ex-Friends. Dont hangout with people like that. And honestly; I can't completely blame this guy for killing what looks like a Garter or a Water Snake. There's so much false info all over (hear people try to say that all snakes are "poisonous" and "the only good snake, is a dead one" all the time...) Plus what the Media puts out... Look at animal planet for example. Always made to pump their viewers will fear; rather than educating them.
And to the Origonal Poster; Try and look up whay types of snakes reside in your area. No innocent animals need to die, and even if it is venomous, it won't mess with you. Snakes don't even like being around their siblings. They aren't going to go after you.

ErikBush97 · 08-29-13, 04:08 AM

Also: It's easier to identify animals when their faces are intact... Just sayin'.

smy_749 · 08-29-13, 04:09 AM

Maybe he is yugoslavian and living in Charlotte..? Are we supposed to put location we are living at there or is country of origin acceptable?

StudentoReptile · 08-29-13, 06:03 AM

The answer that I always go with at this point is: a dead snake. You (or the actual person who killed it) did not care enough to take the time to figure out local species beforehand, so it really does not matter anymore since it is dead.

sharthun · 08-29-13, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by StudentoReptile

The answer that I always go with at this point is: a dead snake. You (or the actual person who killed it) did not care enough to take the time to figure out local species beforehand, so it really does not matter anymore since it is dead.

Great Point! IMO I think we need forum rules preventing posting pics of "I found this dead snake or any herp"

Starbuck · 08-29-13, 08:28 AM

I disagree. Whatever the reason (hit by car, killed by ignorance or avarice) dead snakes are a reality. This allows us the chan vBulletin e to say 'it is a HARMLESS xyz, and this is how it benefits your local biome, so leave it be'. Treat everything like an oppourtunity to educate, and its not your issue whether the lesson is recieved or not.

smy_749 · 08-29-13, 08:32 AM

The reality is, if you own a home, have children and no knowledge of snakes/ a fear of them, I can't blame you for smashing it with a shovel because you thought it was a danger to your family. Atleast they came here afterwards to learn and perhaps avoid the mistake of killing a harmless species next time....as opposed to not caring and killing them every time regardless

sharthun · 08-29-13, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Starbuck

I disagree. Whatever the reason (hit by car, killed by ignorance or avarice) dead snakes are a reality. This allows us the chan vBulletin e to say 'it is a HARMLESS xyz, and this is how it benefits your local biome, so leave it be'. Treat everything like an oppourtunity to educate, and its not your issue whether the lesson is recieved or not.

It's the "killed by ignorance" that frustrates me!

Idontknow · 08-29-13, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by infernalis

I am confused, you list your country a Yugoslavia, yet when I do a back check, it says you are in Charlotte N.C. here in the USA.

Looks as if someone has killed a harmless water snake.

Well there was no option for US or United States when choosing my location during signup. I am from Yugoslavia but moved to US 13 years ago. Here is a better pictures before I killed it.IMG_20130828_175737.jpg

Idontknow · 08-29-13, 02:59 PM

Ok everyone thanks for making me feel bad. You are snake lovers and experts and I am a plumber. I get out of the car and I am about to get my 2 kids out ( 1 and 3) and I almost step on it. It wont move, I cant move the car, the wife is freaking out because the kids play outside all day and we do our google research and it appears to be a copperhead. This is the first time I killed an animal. I have been stung by jelly fish, sting ray, messed up by carolina yellow jackets, more then 1 spyder bite... I was not gonna risk my kids this time. Sorry guys, and if the snake was harmless I apologize to the forum. Here is a better picture:
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Idontknow · 08-29-13, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by StudentoReptile

The answer that I always go with at this point is: a dead snake. You (or the actual person who killed it) did not care enough to take the time to figure out local species beforehand, so it really does not matter anymore since it is dead.

It does matter for the next snake that comes by my yard. Thanks