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Originally Posted by Terranaut
I would never consider my Jungles pure. Not in Canada or the US anyway. That would only be a safe bet if you got it from someone who got the parents from Oz. I think Derek Roddy may have some of these.
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There are lines that have been kept true from what was imported zoo lines. These zoo trades happened for a good many years before the AZA totally pulled funding to breed the Aussie species. During that time we certainly did get some "pure" stock and, there have been a few people dedicated to preserving those lines. Just like I've done with the Tableland animals I have. Had them since the late 80s and, haven't bred any other blood into them.
The black and yellow jungles I have are from the German line and Lazik.
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Originally Posted by trueblue
Pure jungles would be as rare as hens teeth over seas. How can everone be sure they are pure jungles?. Ive heard repeatedly that they arnt pure.?
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That's very true....they would be rare as most people care about what they see with their eyes and, are not concerned with "pure" or not.
But, I do believe the Zebra was hatched out of 2 jungle "type" animals.
I've heard stories of keepers claiming the were bred from the granite IJ but, that doesn't hold water as the Granite is simple recessive and the Zebra is Co dom.
Mutations don't change the way they work just because it is added to another species.
So yes....the Zebra did in fact come from 2 seemingly normal jungle type adults.
On a side note...I've always wondered why all the conspiracy theory keepers always bring up that these mutations come from the IJ? What's so special about the IJ that any mutation that comes out of carpets pythons is thought to come from them?
It makes more sense that mutations would come from genetically repressed genes....not fresh wild caught gene (as IJ have been brought in by the thousands over the years)
Even the Jag gene....keepers have been producing animals from known locale coastal animals that are almost identical to Jags.....(never seen an IJ that looked identical to a Jag)...yet say that it was produced by breeding a coastal and IJ together......how? How does breeding a coastal to an IJ make a genetically mutated gene?
The whole "Jag being an IJ rumor" was started by 1 of 2 very well known breeders here in the US because Jan would not sell them the original animal and, let them take full credit for it....which is what they wanted.
You see...these 2 people have very big egos (esp when it came to carpet pythons at the time) and, one of them was pissed at the time because they didn't get what they wanted from Jan based on their name in the business.
So, they return to the states and tell other keepers that the animal was a cross and nothing more.
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