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04-05-13, 06:55 AM
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Re: Savannah Monitor skin issue
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Its gonna take a lot of super worms to fill up an adult sav lol. I keep both dubias and hissers and they really are not bad. Crickets are just flat out nasty.
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And they aren't that great to begin with...10 of those is like a bag of potatoe chips, a few dubias is like a steak dinner hahaha
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04-05-13, 07:45 AM
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Re: Savannah Monitor skin issue
Thats why I feed her mice too. And ill get her some night crawlers. When I feed her crickets I only buy her what I need. I used to keep crickets for my geckos and they smell disgusting.
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04-05-13, 08:48 AM
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Re: Savannah Monitor skin issue
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And they aren't that great to begin with...10 of those is like a bag of potatoe chips, a few dubias is like a steak dinner hahaha
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I know you are just trying to use an analogy for ease, but there isnt a great deal of difference nutritionally between the two. Ive noticed its been a growing trend on the forums lately for people to wrongly state that roaches are much more nutritionally superior. While they are somewhat better in some regards, the size is the biggest difference, not the nutrition.
mygabriella, I would again suggest perhaps switching the rodents for crayfish for a little while until your monitor is a little healthier weight.
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04-05-13, 09:46 AM
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Re: Savannah Monitor skin issue
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I know you are just trying to use an analogy for ease, but there isnt a great deal of difference nutritionally between the two. Ive noticed its been a growing trend on the forums lately for people to wrongly state that roaches are much more nutritionally superior. While they are somewhat better in some regards, the size is the biggest difference, not the nutrition.
mygabriella, I would again suggest perhaps switching the rodents for crayfish for a little while until your monitor is a little healthier weight.
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Yes I was referring to size....no I actually did know that though. I just keep reading about how mealies and supers arent very nutritious and how roaches are the holy grail of insects. I really only got them because they dont smell and are easy to breed though. What is the crude protein % on superworms?
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04-05-13, 10:01 AM
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Re: Savannah Monitor skin issue
Unlike mealworms supers have much thinner shells. So plenty of meat in them.
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04-05-13, 10:22 AM
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Re: Savannah Monitor skin issue
ah ok , never used them. I just thought they were larger mealworms lol. Are they like grubs / larvae-ish
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04-05-13, 10:34 AM
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Re: Savannah Monitor skin issue
supers turn into some sort of nasty black beetle. Where can I get cray fish?
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04-05-13, 11:14 AM
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Re: Savannah Monitor skin issue
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supers turn into some sort of nasty black beetle. Where can I get cray fish?
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The monitor may also eat the beetles.
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04-05-13, 11:48 AM
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Re: Savannah Monitor skin issue
I keep all my superworms together. I buy them in bulk of 500. So they wont turn into beetles. From what I understand, they will only go on to turn into a beetle if they are kept alone. But she doesnt want superworms anymore. When I put one infront of her she gives me a disgusted look hehe
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04-05-13, 12:03 PM
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Re: Savannah Monitor skin issue
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The monitor may also eat the beetles.
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Generally varanids dont touch the adult beetles from what ive seen.
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04-05-13, 02:22 PM
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Re: Savannah Monitor skin issue
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I keep all my superworms together. I buy them in bulk of 500. So they wont turn into beetles. From what I understand, they will only go on to turn into a beetle if they are kept alone. But she doesnt want superworms anymore. When I put one infront of her she gives me a disgusted look hehe
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Yes, that is true about them having to be separated to pupate. Just like you are finding anyway, they usually stop eating the smaller bugs as they get bigger.
As for finding crayfish, most stores that have fish will also sell them or can get them in for you. Depending on where you live, you can often find them on CL also. I had a guy here sell me 25 for $10. They breed like crazy in an established fish tank and can take over the tank, so fish keepers often sell off their extras. If you want to get them in bulk, there are numerous places online that sell them by the pound from Louisiana and Texas. Shipping is a bit extra, of course, but they are guaranteed live. You can set up a fish tank pretty easily and then breed them yourself too.
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04-05-13, 03:26 PM
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Re: Savannah Monitor skin issue
hmm ill have to look around. I could catch her loads of wild ones this summer!
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04-05-13, 11:31 PM
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Re: Savannah Monitor skin issue
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hmm ill have to look around. I could catch her loads of wild ones this summer!
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Avoid wc food stuffs ... They carry parasites ... 
Ideally u want ur moni parasite free ...
Last edited by V87; 04-05-13 at 11:36 PM..
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04-06-13, 11:18 AM
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Re: Savannah Monitor skin issue
I got her some night crawlers. She LOVES them! How many of those should I give her? I gave her 2 for now. She thinks they are delish! Thanks for the suggestion
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04-06-13, 11:42 AM
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Re: Savannah Monitor skin issue
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Originally Posted by mygabriella
I got her some night crawlers. She LOVES them! How many of those should I give her? I gave her 2 for now. She thinks they are delish! Thanks for the suggestion
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mine eats about 10..
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