Why are so many people opposed to keeping wild snakes as pets?

[Charlie64]

They do it with ball pythons all the time. They see something neat, like a morph, in the wild then breeders pay top dollar for em.
Carpet's is one species. I wanted an asian vine snake, guess where it came from? The wild. They don't breed well in captivity.
Should we only own snakes that are mass produced in farms for consumers? I find mass breeding much more of an atrocity than collecting a wild specimen.
Then again. Opinions are like @holes. rofl

[exwizard]

If its captive bred it shd never be released. If its wild it shd remain wild.

[exwizard]

Originally Posted by shaunyboy

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i disagree with this 100%


Australia has banned export of reptiles since 1982

yet there are more than enough carpet pythons outside Australia,so there is no need to go out and catch wild snakes

imo if there has not been any carpet pythons taken from the wild for export in the last 30 years,then as long as theres captive breds out there,then theres no need to keep taking from the wild

so buying captive bred is in NO WAY the same thing mate...!!

yes in the very begining there would have been an amount taken from the wild,but after that there would be no need to keep doing it

imo,the easiest way to damage wild stock is.....

to think just grabbing as many as you want from the wild is ok

cheers shaun

Yup yup yup

[Lankyrob]

Originally Posted by exwizard

If its captive bred it shd never be released. If its wild it shd remain wild.

Couldnt agree more

[StudentoReptile]

Originally Posted by zaroba

The only time that wild animals should be kept are for short term purposes:
1. Rehabilitation. A while back one of my cats kept catching baby garter snakes, so I took them in so their injuries could heal and then returned them to nature, away from the house and cat.
2. Relocation. I've found Box turtles in places where housing developments were going up, moved them to a large park. Same with snakes from my neighborhood due to kids that insist on killing them.
3. Education/Research. Take in a tadpole, watch it morph into a frog, release it. Catch a snake, weigh it, measure it, study it, release it.

The only time a wild animal should be kept in captivity forever is if it is no longer able to survive in the wild due to injury.

I generally agree with this.

I know there could be exceptions to the rule when we're talking about protected/endangered species that need dedicated hobbyists to focus efforts on breeding those species for conservation efforts, or possibly if there is a new locality to be cultivated, and a few choice wild specimens can be collected for the same purpose. But I think its up to responsible herp enthusiasts and wildlife officials to work together on those cases to ensure there is no over-collecting, etc.

For instance, if some new weird locality of mountain kingsnake is discovered, and the species is protected throughout most of its range, I think if enough dedicated hobbyists rallied together and got involved with the right authorities, they could work toward successfully getting that particular locality into the captive trade without opening it up where any Joe could go out and collect the snakes by the bagload.

[homocapra]

Originally Posted by shaunyboy

^^^^^
i disagree with this 100%


Australia has banned export of reptiles since 1982

yet there are more than enough carpet pythons outside Australia,so there is no need to go out and catch wild snakes

imo if there has not been any carpet pythons taken from the wild for export in the last 30 years,then as long as theres captive breds out there,then theres no need to keep taking from the wild

so buying captive bred is in NO WAY the same thing mate...!!

yes in the very begining there would have been an amount taken from the wild,but after that there would be no need to keep doing it

imo,the easiest way to damage wild stock is.....

to think just grabbing as many as you want from the wild is ok

cheers shaun

I agree! Many species of animals are affected because humans take them out of the wild. Anytime an animal becomes a product, whether that be food or pet or skin/fur, whenever there's money involved for humans, the animals suffer and the wild population will eventually be impacted. Did you know that the biggest threat to wild chimpanzees, other great apes and all kinds of other animals is not habitat loss anymore, it's the commercial market for bush meat! Black rat snakes are just lucky that they aren't very colorful and it's not hip to eat them, this keeps the market small

[red ink]

Originally Posted by shaunyboy

^^^^^
i disagree with this 100%


Australia has banned export of reptiles since 1982

yet there are more than enough carpet pythons outside Australia,so there is no need to go out and catch wild snakes

imo if there has not been any carpet pythons taken from the wild for export in the last 30 years,then as long as theres captive breds out there,then theres no need to keep taking from the wild

so buying captive bred is in NO WAY the same thing mate...!!

yes in the very begining there would have been an amount taken from the wild,but after that there would be no need to keep doing it

imo,the easiest way to damage wild stock is.....

to think just grabbing as many as you want from the wild is ok

cheers shaun

Plenty of carpets get taken out of the wild for export ... I was passed on a website on another forum of breeders in UK stating they had Julattens. We did not even know of the Julattens back in 82, wonder how they got them

Darkside of the hobby unfortunately... I actually want exports out of OZ to happen to put the mongrels out of business and whats wild stays wild.

Plus if the export happens guess what you're getting as chrissy prezies ... Is it wrong for a bloke to give another bloke Diamonds for a present?