Sunglow Boa - better yet a Coral Sunglow Boa

[Tyler99]

Matt_K and heatherRose, both very good posts!

Kimo, dont you think your takin this TOO seriuos?? I know, like you said, your done with ssnakess (Ive seen people say that and they come back in like three weeks).

In all, I think its a lil odd that tony wouldnt reply to matts PM.


Lets try and keep this thread going! LOL I can see it now, right when tony gets on to fix all of this ruffle, its locked!!LOL


I have a question, well, two. How much are coral sunglow and snow boas?

[SnakeyeZ]

Originally posted by Manitoban Herps
I guess we will all know if he has the snakes if he gets neonates this summer. I don't know who to beleive. But I made my choice today and if I was wrong all well. Not like I could afford any BCI morphs anyways

Im with you Kevin..i really dont know who to trust anymore...also...i may not be able to afford them BCI morphs...but it doesnt bother me non the less.

[marisa]

"This is why Canada is 20 years behind the U.S. in the reptile industry."

Um no. The Canadian reptile market is not behind, it's smaller because we have LESS PEOPLE! Ugh! Why do people constantly look for reasons the canadian market is "smaller" ???? Is it not obvious yet that Canada has less people? And if you honestly think we squabble more than the US, you need to spend more time with the US herpers who fight over the brand of paper towel each other uses!

In any case, Tony would privately message any mod if he himself wanted the thread closed. I have recieved.....here let me count....zero complaints about this thread..not one. Now when we decide on a thread being closed or not, believe or not we also rely on members thoughts. Not 100% but they are DEFINITLY taken into consideration...IE. say a thread is not bad at all, but someone complains...we will probably close it just to satisfy the member because that's what we are here to do.

Kimo I understand many of your points and agree with some, but others are really a stretch. And for people "hating" this thread being open, they sure do reply alot keeping it active!

"aswell as the BOI forum,"

Matt's conduct is fine. As I said for all the complaints, no member has yet complained to us, not even Tony. Matt has simply asked questions, even to Tony in pm, stated facts, etc. If Tony asked Matt to please simply close the thread just because, Matt would probably even do it. Matt is also not a mod on Fauna and can post there as he see's fit.

The most hilarious part is the people who are agreeing with Tony, and who are calling for it to close, THEY keep posting! LMAO!

Again this thread is borderline, I agree. But until it goes beyond that, I don't think it's even fair to close it without giving Tony a chance to speak and share his side. That would be rude. And I personally don't want to do that because it would piss me off if it was done to me.

Marisa

[Shad0w]

Okay guys... can we just drop this whole issue?

Everyone can believe what they want and Tony can choose to show himself if he wishes.... lets leave it at that...

I mean WE...as in all of you... including myself, ARE the herp community here in Canada... and look at us... destroying each other... the animosity built up in this ONE thread can set back the herping community for years in canada... I may be a little over dramatic but you all get my point...

[marisa]

UGH!

THe people who don't like the thread KEEP posting! WHY! WHY! WHY! :P :P

I (and the other mods) are content to let this thread die. But I will NOT close a thread until the person in question tells me to because he wants to give up his chance at a reply. PERIOD. It's NOT fair at this point to exclude Tony from a reply! It's NOT fair at all to Tony.

If you don't like this thread, STOP BRINGING to the top of the pile!

Marisa

[Shad0w]

Deal Marisa ... last post

[tdherper]

I'm not sure why people wouldn't like this thread, it teaches a valuable lesson to all of us alike....

"If you talk the talk, you better walk the talk as well", especially if you talk sooo much and often..... my .02 :zi:

[dave68]

Yeah and never mind the lesson being learned throughout the thread at least I have a soap opera to come home to enjoy, now that I'm a woking mom.....i say keep the thread alive......lollollol...sorry bad sense of humor and also easily entertained, thanks...Allison

[BOAS_N_PYTHONS]

EVERYONE:

Below you will read my reply, which has been authorized by my legal council. This will be my last reply to this and any other issues brought up from the past - future, about myself and my collection, and as a member on this or other internet public forums.

My reply has been called for and now the moderators of this forum must close this thread as there is nothing more to be debated or mentioned again. It is the responsibility of the moderators to end this once and for all. Please comply as everyone had a chance to make their statements and now I have made mine and the issues are all closed.

I also request that any issue or anything involving this thread or any thread in the past be ended. No future accusations to be brought up if not related to business practices as a whole, if your not a past / current customer you have nothing to present of slanderous defamation of character or business practices.

We gave everyone the opportunity and the ability to make there statements before making our final reply and the conclusion has come to an end. My reply might be a few pages long due to images.

Tony Pharosx

NOTE:

Please look over all these links, I am not responsible of what these links show and represent and anything where it may have been edited by other members but valuable information was discussed by myself to help the community. It is important to look at the dates of my and alot of everyone' s replies and see how one can be negative on me yet positive as well, and understand the reasons that the accusers have ganged up to create a fire they had no business doing.

Below are threads I made giving credit to breeders and suppliers.

1st - Attempt too give credit where credit was due (February 05, 2004) - PRESS HERE.

2nd - Attempt too give credit where credit was due (February 05, 2004) - PRESS HERE.

Below are threads done on me showing my business practices and overall membership was valued.

1st - Satisfied customers posting on me (May 15, 2004) - PRESS HERE.

2nd - Satisfied customers posting on me (July 12, 2004) - PRESS HERE.

3rd - Satisfied customers posting on me (June 20, 2004) - PRESS HERE.

Below are links of trying to help the community best I can with issues that are of importance.

1st - Attempt to help the community in general (June 12, 2004) - PRESS HERE.

2nd - Attempt to help the community in general (June 12, 2004) - PRESS HERE.

3rd - Attempt to help the community in general (December 01, 2004) - PRESS HERE.

Below is a site that can help the new and current members with people in this community.

Informative site about the best and worst people in this hobby - PRESS HERE.

These are just a few links I could provide with my limited understanding of the internet. It does not matter what anyone here wants to think about why I am doing this. But what does matter is I am providing to the community is actual proof, information, experience, ethical behavior, and responsibility to my friends, customers and the whole community.

Now if any member wishes to read the below images, please do so with an open mind and from top to bottom. If you can not do this, please keep you comments about me private as they have no bearing on the overall response I am making here.

Thank you.

PS: And this is my 2000th post, talk about timing.

I also wonder how many of the people who followed this thread will actually read my full reply, the number is high. Time will tell if the full views double after my reply and the thread is closed – Yes I am asking the moderators to close the thread.













Tony Pharosx

[BoidKeeper]

What I want to know is where is Romeo in all this, what are his thoughts on all this?
Trevor
PS
Tony could you please PM or email me the name of your legal council please I would like to contact him/her to find out were they went to school because no lawyer with a proper education would ever authorize such giberish.

[tdherper]

Tony,
I just wasted 25 minutes reading and rereading your post. I admit I added a little snide comment about walking the talk, and it bothers me that you spent an obvious large amount of time creating this essay, when in fact you could have totally proven those doubters wrong in less than a minute by posting a photo of this animal with you.
I will not hide anonymously, my name is Tony D'Alessandro. I have no friends on this board. I collect reptiles and enjoy coming on the site for info, and let's face it entertainment!
I agree with BoidKeeper about your legal council... Why did you choose to respond this way. Someone called your bluff and it is time to show your cards...If you say you have pocket Aces, you have to show them when called.
I always enjoyed looking at you photos, although I often thought it arrogant to only entertain compliments by demanding people "Stay on topic"
I say that the only way for you to save face in this situation is to either post pics, or admit you've been stretching the truth. That 12 page rant is ridiculous and serves only to further the opinions stated about you in these threads.
I'm sorry to chime in here, but I thought you might be interested in someone's opinion who has nothing to gain or hide.
Regards,
td

[Scales Zoo]

Since I was referenced so much in the letter, I double dog dare you to go infront of a judge with me, as I do want to see those snakes.

You lied to me, and for that, you owe me an appology.

Ryan

[HeatherRose]

My reply has been called for and now the moderators of this forum must close this thread as there is nothing more to be debated or mentioned again. It is the responsibility of the moderators to end this once and for all. Please comply as everyone had a chance to make their statements and now I have made mine and the issues are all closed.

I believe it is actually your responsibility to resolve this issue...

[Double J]

All this, and still no pic of him holding the sunglow.

[Tyler99]

I noticed, tony that you said somin about me saying *your fans would be crushed!*

First of all I was saying that all the people that thought you had a really awsome collection, would prolly be upset if it was fake. You know like you saying "chilling" its "slang".