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Old 09-02-04, 10:53 AM   #106
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Trevor, I hadn't considered the politics of it, either, but it makes sense... (for the polititcian). I am a registered voter, and trust me if a ban occurs around here I'll not only have to go underground with my dog, but they won't be getting my vote, that's for sure.

Either way, if they inact ANYTHING it'll have to be enforced, which is going to cost money and manpower, no matter what. They might as well do the sensible thing and realize that an outright ban on certain breeds are going to have more negative effects then good....
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Old 09-02-04, 01:21 PM   #107
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Trevor, thanks for that post.

It shows why pet owners can't just silently sit by and say nothing.

If we speak up, we're showing our solidarity. There's nothing that says we have to say "I have X number of snakes or 2 pitbulls" or whatever. We simply need to make our opinions known to the people who take our tax money, and vote themselves raises with it.
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Old 09-04-04, 02:54 PM   #108
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ok time for a bit of education here on pitties,

first off, this dog was orginally designed for bear baiting! you got it people to hunt bears, and after a law that was passed in britain to ban hunting of bears, people turned to pit fights, putting one pitty against another, and im sorry these dogs were not bred for aggression, they were bred for their endurance, their "gameness" for those of you whom don't understand it's their ability to keep going in a fight, regardless of the fact they may be mortally wounded (ie. internal organs dragging behind them). Now in regards to their aggression...this is nonsence these dogs were selectively bred so that agression would NOT be a problem. to prove this point, during pit fights if the opposite owner couldn't handle the others pittbull, it was immediately put down, and the same goes for breeding, if say a male pitty bit their owner, or anyone else, it, along with all of its pups were also immediately destroyed. (keep in mind this type of selective breeding stopped about 30 years ago) the problem with the breed today is these "backyard breeders" who think it's cool to have a "tuff" dog. and anyone who labels this breed as agressive...well your about as well informed as a kindergarten kid, go do the research on this breeds history, cause to date their isn't a breed out their that can claim the title of "loyal till death" like the American PittBull Terrier can...

sorry if i came off rude to anyone, im just sick and tired of this breed being bashed, do the research before you judge!

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I agree with everything you have said. I have owned this breed for the last 16 years. The old dogmen who were the original fighters of the breed were the ones who kept the human aggressiveness out of the breed.
One question though............."Proud owner of a purebred "game" American pit bull terrier"...............how can you claim to have a game dog? The only way to test true gameness is to fight the dog..............and please don't say that its in the bloodlines because there have been champion "gamers" that have produced many "currs" in their bloodline.?
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Old 09-05-04, 08:05 PM   #109
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I, after listening to some radio today, and some research, think this breed serves no purpose to the pet trade, and should be banned

Thanks!

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Old 09-06-04, 01:27 AM   #110
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wrx....I was at a Pet store on Friday and had our Pug with us.....a man there was holding a 5 month old Pitbull and we started talking. This dog was beautiful and very friendly and I really believe it's more on the owners than the breed themselves. This dog was great with ours and to be honest I've known probably 15 pits and all have been friendly well behaved dogs. Unfortunately it seems a lot of "undesirable and irresponsible" people flock to this breed and that makes it hard for all the owners that love the breed and don't just want them to make themselves look tough. Punish the irresponsible owners and backyard breeders.....don't punish the breed. Look at all the people that have responded to this thread that have wonderful Pitbulls and care about their animals, and if you believe that banning these dogs will make a difference....think how you would feel if a law was passed that said you could not keep your animal. (It's Pitbulls now....but just wait, next thing it could be rotti's, bullmastiffs, boxers etc) Banning the breed is a "band-aid" fix and will not help solve the problem.

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Old 09-06-04, 09:54 AM   #111
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I, after listening to some radio today, and some research, think this breed serves no purpose to the pet trade, and should be banned
Wow, so you listened to the media and did what? look at what studies on pitbulls? If it hasn't become clear enough, the media is after the big story and has no interest in the source of the problem......THE OWNERS!!! They give you the information that will make you cringe and nothing more, every news story I've seen or heard gives gory details or is followed by shots of chained vicious dogs. Just for once I'd like to see them go film a pitbull doing therapy work or search and rescue but why would they do that? there's no ratings in that kind of thing, that's why.

As far as research, I can give you some great sources of info on pittes that isn't off of some sort of BSL website or media supplied link.

I for one refuse to stand by and let a breed that I have known for most of my life be banned. One which I credit for years of companionship and even saving me from breakins and possible harm on more than one occasion. I've lived and REALLY known this breed for years and these dogs have come from loving homes that provided these dogs with what they needed and in return received everything great this breed is capable of giving. I want bans too.......on irresponsible breeders and owners who are ruining this breed and as a result many other breeds as well. It will never stop at just the Pitbull. Make people responsible for a change because WE are the only truly viscious species on this planet.

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Honestly, the only people who should be in a debate with a town to make this decision are Pit Bull owners, and people who have been attacked by Pit Bulls.

They are the ONLY ones with first hand knowledge from BOTH sides.

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So what about families of those who have been mauled or killed?
How about friends? Co-workers?

Just to get it right here, in order to be what you consider 'an expert' you have to:

1) Own a Pit Bull?

or

2) Have been attacked by one?

Riiiiight....
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Old 09-07-04, 03:16 PM   #114
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I cant believe this monster thread is STILL growing
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Old 09-07-04, 03:24 PM   #115
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Actually thats not what I meant at all. But of course, some people have nothing better to do than jump to conclusions.

As for my part, it was moronish for me not to spell out my point in A B and C exactly to the tee. What I meant by those attacked, was anyone DIRECTLY involved with a pit bull attack.

Aside from that group, Pit Bull owners and possibly vets/animal behaviour experts, no, it's not up to anyone else as no one else has a first hand view or knowledge of them. That's my opinion and there is no need to argue it against me by the use of a numbered list, or otherwise.

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Old 09-07-04, 03:35 PM   #116
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And as always, you have to have the last word.
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Old 09-07-04, 03:41 PM   #117
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LOL! We are having a discussion????? Are we not? What are you talking about the last word? Grow up! Holy cow. I wasn't even thinking ANYTHING like attitude-ish or anything. Wow it's blowing my mind you actually think this is an arguement.

Relax! You can have as many words as you wish. This is a ::::discussion::::: after all! I just wished you had not picked apart my post and taken it so literally as I honestly believe only certain people have a right to make a choice about this particular topic.

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Old 09-07-04, 03:44 PM   #118
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Seriously, let's just not argue becasue I do not want this thread to get closed on account of what I or you might have said or will say.

Let's just leave it at a differance of opinions, and I am sorry if whatever I posted offended you.

And that's that. Good day,

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Old 09-07-04, 03:52 PM   #119
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I say good day to you then!

Fez rules!
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Old 09-07-04, 04:01 PM   #120
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Apparently we do have something in common because......Fez DOES rule!

lol :P

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