Regurgitating Rainbow Boa!!! - Page 7

nicolerae · 03-26-13, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Aaron_S

I hope that the vet actually finds something wrong internally because if not then it's just you.

Quite the inconsiderate comment.

Regarldess, took her to the vet. She was dewormed and tube fed. Which she regurged. The vet said her environment is fine and wouldn't have caused the illness.

So Aaron_S, this underweight RESCUE we adopted and did everything we possibly can wont keep down liquid tube fed nutrients. I assure you, its nothing I've done. Why would I get a rescue and not put her in a proper environment, try to nuture her back with probiotic treatments and vet trips if I didn't care.

nicolerae · 03-26-13, 02:34 PM

Further more,

How can you be so unsympathetic towards someone who shares the same interest in herps and is absolutely torn up about a snake who is ill. I've spent countless dollars, hours of research, gone to see breeders and vets, taken days of university to come home and focus on her and get information, meds, etc, and all the while unable to handle my gorgeous baby snake because she is so ill.

HOW DARE YOU SAY IT WAS SOMETHING I DID.

This is my last ever post on this forum because I am so disgusted at the attitudes of those who claim to be veterns but offer no sufficient help to those who have an actual need for decent advice as this thread so clearly shows. You do nothing but have a freaking bitch off of who knows more and who knows the best breeders. No one cares. I came on here for advice from experienced owners on how to deal with my issue, and got absolutely nothing from you.

I am so emotionally attached to each one of my animals that I cannot believe a true lover of herps would actually say that to another person who has the same interest, I cannot.

**Aaron_S** · 03-26-13, 04:00 PM

That was funny.

Anyway, I said I HOPE the vet DOES find something because the only other idea would be because of you! I'm just eliminating the problems with logic. Eventually it comes down to something and there's two logical points.

Now because you're SO amazing at keeping them we'll play the game that it isn't your fault. It can't keep anything down apparently and may have internal parasites (which is so rare in captive bred animals I'd be surprised).

You love them ALL so much so why did you bring in a new animal within a month? You have NO idea what could be causing this regurge (because you can't be at fault) so what if it's contagious? You obviously don't have quarantine practices because of this thread you talk about handling.

http://www.ssnakess.com/forums/new-f...questions.html

Apparently it may be 2 months old or younger but now it's a rescue? I'm sure you're lying and just trying to make me feel bad but it won't work. In that first pic it sure looks like a healthy BRB and not a 2 month old with regurge problems. A snake doesn't just have issues like this unless it got something along the way. I would presume YOUR place since it was eating wherever you got it from originally since you brought it home on feeding day?

Lastly, if you read the thread, like actually read it, you'd see that probiotics DO NOT help reptiles and there is no "regaining" stomach acids. Way to go Ace!

**Aaron_S** · 03-26-13, 04:04 PM

I thought of more information....

I don't see how a snake that hasn't eaten in roughly 4 - 5 weeks needs to be tube fed. You could EASILY be stressing this animal out FAR more than you think with all these probiotic treatments and tube feedings.

KORBIN5895 · 03-26-13, 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nicolerae

Quite the inconsiderate comment.

Regarldess, took her to the vet. She was dewormed and tube fed. Which she regurged. The vet said her environment is fine and wouldn't have caused the illness.

So Aaron_S, this underweight RESCUE we adopted and did everything we possibly can wont keep down liquid tube fed nutrients. I assure you, its nothing I've done. Why would I get a rescue and not put her in a proper environment, try to nuture her back with probiotic treatments and vet trips if I didn't care.

Did your vet even test for parasites?

KORBIN5895 · 03-26-13, 05:00 PM

Now let's get down to the brass tacks.

What are the temps? What is the humidity? How do you measure the temps? How do you heat the enclosure? What is it being housed in? How often are you in the room?

Lots of people "rescue" animals just to put them into sub standard living conditions. We see it all the time so don't get all uppity as there is obviously a problem. If it was me I would rather it be my husbandry than some unknown illness that could kill my whole collection.

Bel5191 · 03-26-13, 05:14 PM

It's interesting how some people take everything some stranger on the internet writes about them as some horrendous insult. Really people? This is the internet, deal with it.

**Aaron_S** · 03-26-13, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Bel5191

It's interesting how some people take everything some stranger on the internet writes about them as some horrendous insult. Really people? This is the internet, deal with it.

They probably shouldn't have been shown it to begin with.

**lady_bug87** · 03-26-13, 08:49 PM

*points at signature *

Jendee · 03-27-13, 11:27 AM

I still stand by probiotics in reptiles, I also still say most reptile vets are useless. Usually are dog/cat vets with a course of reptiles. you have to search long and hard to find one with a special interest in herpetology. Most keepers know more then just a course worth.Infact just recently had a boa to the vet where she asked fi she could test my male boa for ovum, and told me if he refused a meal he could die quickly. ??? seriously?? I almost walked out at that point lol I still also say that reptiles can regurge from other issues other then husbandry. and again also believe that continual regurge can be habit forming. At which point a solution other then checking temps is needed lol Nicole your welcome to pm me or find me on facebook to chat anytime

NBLADE · 03-28-13, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Jendee

I still stand by probiotics in reptiles, I also still say most reptile vets are useless. Usually are dog/cat vets with a course of reptiles. you have to search long and hard to find one with a special interest in herpetology. Most keepers know more then just a course worth.Infact just recently had a boa to the vet where she asked fi she could test my male boa for ovum, and told me if he refused a meal he could die quickly. ??? seriously?? I almost walked out at that point lol I still also say that reptiles can regurge from other issues other then husbandry. and again also believe that continual regurge can be habit forming. At which point a solution other then checking temps is needed lol Nicole your welcome to pm me or find me on facebook to chat anytime

I still think you should try it yourself before advising it, as you yourself admit you have no experience trying it, and the wrong doses and wrong type could cause more issues than they "help".
The only reasons a snake would generally regurge, is husbandry, stress, a meal too large to digest quick enough before it starts to decompose and cause issues, or an underlying health issue like impaction, internal parasites etc. Habit forming i don't buy into, a healthy snake with no issues in the correct environment without any stress shouldn't continue to regurge just because it has done it a few times before.

I'd agree that most vets aren't that clued up with reptiles, the fact that this vet just wormed the snake without actually doing any fecal tests it seems, and the fact that they went straight to tube feeding nutrients which is extremely stressful as it is, but if there is an underlying issue forcing food into the snake isn't going to do anything other than encourage it to regurge that aswell, tells me they aren't the best reptile vets around.

desipooh.12 · 05-10-13, 01:15 AM

First off if you have a baby BRB the humidity can't be between
50-70 it has to be between 85-90 .. There
Baby's .. They need it the most .. I think
Its the temps .. More humidity

desipooh.12 · 05-10-13, 01:50 PM

Its always good to hear that you
Are doing whatever it takes for your snake !
Thumbs up,
Don't worry about what ppm say its the Internet,
Its going to happen.