Do reptiles have feelings? - Page 7

Trollbie · 03-25-12, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by infernalis

hey trollbie, just so you know, we don't use the "R word" here, several members have children with disabilities, and out of respect, we just don't use that word.

I used it? I don't recall using it ever... But I'm sorry

infernalis · 03-25-12, 10:07 PM

No problem, it's in the babette story.

Trollbie · 03-25-12, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by infernalis

No problem, it's in the babette story.

Oooh I just copied and pasted. Didn't even think about it...

*Don't Mind Me* · 03-25-12, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollbie

The vet brought her in and upon hearing her account of the snake child’s behavior immediately confined the snake to a tank in the back room and had his assistants attempt to console the ****** that was Babette.

Was this the unacceptable part? I thought It was okay if it was infrequent and censored.
Either way, words like that shouldn't be used at all, especially when they can create disrespect.

jaleely · 03-25-12, 10:48 PM

can't a mod just edit the post to take it out, rather than us all posting about it and bringing it up?

*Don't Mind Me* · 03-25-12, 10:53 PM

i would guess so to

infernalis · 03-25-12, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jaleely

can't a mod just edit the post to take it out, rather than us all posting about it and bringing it up?

I could do that, but then we don't know any better next time.

I remember once I used to be on another forum and one of the mods would edit posts and say nothing.

drove me crazy, how are we supposed to know why words are vanishing if nothing gets said about it.

Trollbie · 03-25-12, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by infernalis

I could do that, but then we don't know any better next time.

I remember once I used to be on another forum and one of the mods would edit posts and say nothing.

drove me crazy, how are we supposed to know why words are vanishing if nothing gets said about it.

I can't even see any bad words

Gungirl · 03-26-12, 08:40 AM

Dumber I second the Fail! lol

MoreliAddict · 03-26-12, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Gauxgaux

My garter snake is somewhere happy in the wild because she snuck off when I looked down for two minutes.

We all make mistakes. I will post pictures soon to prove to you all I have happy, healthy, and very intelligent animals.

say what you want but that line about the garter snake was funny

and we should've waited for pics before ban

verethragna · 08-04-12, 03:11 AM

I know this is an old topic but I feel the need to share information from a scientific point of view. For one, in recent studies they found that anoles had an equivalent intelligence or even greater intelligence than some birds (Lizards may be smarter than you think | TG Daily). Originally, people thought reptiles were dumb because they were unable to problem solve like rodents running in mazes, but if you think about it....why would a reptile ever run through a maze, it is not in their nature. However, it is possible to train a reptile to go through a maze given enough training. Another misconception people have is that since the reptile's brain is so small it can't be smart. We commonly think that bigger brains, means you are smarter. Nope, not true. Every living being is wired differently. Look at elephants, according to that logic elephants should be smarter and thus the dominant species, but they aren't. The link I included was a study that was released in 2011, so its relatively recent. Humans also try to rationalize things, in order to feel like they understand it. If a reptile did feel love, would they perceive it the same as we do? Truth is, we can keep dissecting reptile brains and figure out the physical structure of its brain. But in the scientific community today, we know nothing about consciousness so who are we to judge what they are capable of? Humans can be like mother theresa to someone like hitler, a saint to a monster. Not all reptiles are the same and I truly believe some reptiles are capable of love in their own way, while some aren't. Sorry if this was too long of a read

KORBIN5895 · 08-05-12, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by verethragna

I know this is an old topic but I feel the need to share information from a scientific point of view. For one, in recent studies they found that anoles had an equivalent intelligence or even greater intelligence than some birds (Lizards may be smarter than you think | TG Daily). Originally, people thought reptiles were dumb because they were unable to problem solve like rodents running in mazes, but if you think about it....why would a reptile ever run through a maze, it is not in their nature. However, it is possible to train a reptile to go through a maze given enough training. Another misconception people have is that since the reptile's brain is so small it can't be smart. We commonly think that bigger brains, means you are smarter. Nope, not true. Every living being is wired differently. Look at elephants, according to that logic elephants should be smarter and thus the dominant species, but they aren't. The link I included was a study that was released in 2011, so its relatively recent. Humans also try to rationalize things, in order to feel like they understand it. If a reptile did feel love, would they perceive it the same as we do? Truth is, we can keep dissecting reptile brains and figure out the physical structure of its brain. But in the scientific community today, we know nothing about consciousness so who are we to judge what they are capable of? Humans can be like mother theresa to someone like hitler, a saint to a monster. Not all reptiles are the same and I truly believe some reptiles are capable of love in their own way, while some aren't. Sorry if this was too long of a read

Sorry but there was nothing scientific in that drivel.

Herptile Lover · 10-20-12, 11:04 AM

I don't want to be criticized on here for believing in what I believe in, and I mean this in the nicest way possible, but please don't dis me and try to tell me my way of thinking is wrong. I am just looking for a different view of the subject, not the right one because right now, I dont think there is a right one, a 100% positive answer to this question.

The question: Do you believe snakes have some emotions?

I don't believe they have quite the same emotions as us, or a dog, or a cat, but that they are capable of a little bit more than what most of us might think from an "instinctual" animal. My KSB boy is super sweet and he does look like he has a little bit of thoughts and emotions going on in that little brain of his.

The first example, I once had him on the side of the bed with me when I was doing some research on the laptop. I was scratching the underneath of his chin (He does seem to enjoy it. I would be scratching his chin for maybe 5-10 minutes at a time and he doesn't stop until I stop and when I do stop, he will start rubbing up against my hand repeatedly until a little bit of time has passed or I start scratching his chin again. Not sure what it is but he seems to like it) and then my dog came up and my attention diverted from him to her and immeadiantly, he crawled onto me and started rubbing up against my face until I payed attention to him again. It seemed it was jealousy but who knows.

The second example, I was on my laptop watching youtube videos over his care (I like to refresh my knowledge of them once a week even though I have written his care down in a journal) and he got on the keyboard and tried to burrow into the keyboard it seemed and when it bounced back up, he froze and just stared at it for maybe a minute. Then, he pressed down on the key again and when it bounced back up, THE SAME EXACT REACTION. It seemed there was some kind of thought process going on because he did that maybe five times.

The last example, my friend whom had come over wanted to hold him and I gave him to her for a moment and I was sitting on one side of the couch, my friend on the other side. And that snake immeadiantly JUMPED from her hands and darted towards me before slithering inside my jacked pocket (His favorite hang out). That one is a bit touchy on whether or not it was the cause of emotions or not but I still believe it could be.

Again, I very strongly believe they have some thought process going on and some human emotions. I am open to any other ideas.

infernalis · 10-20-12, 11:51 AM

this subject has been heavily debated & discussed before..

Seems like we have a recent thread on the subject..???

MDT · 10-20-12, 12:15 PM

i can tell you that from an anatomical point of view, their brain is very primitive and unlikely to be capable of emotion. beyond that, it's probably all subjective...
no offense intended.