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Old 12-14-11, 04:59 PM   #91
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Re: Nasty snakes?

As I don't tame down snakes....

My number 1 tip is watch for the toungue flick.... excessive toungue flicking means a very very uneasy snake.

Don't get complacecent, meaning just because you "can" pick up a defensive snake does'nt mean you should at that time. Walk away, come back later or the next day even, one day longer of not cleaning the enclosure won't hurt it.

It takes one tag from a hot just because you decide to "push" the issue for a lifetime of pain...
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Old 12-14-11, 08:13 PM   #92
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Does anyone here have experience with Bamboo ratsnakes (O. porphyraceus spp.)?
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Old 12-15-11, 08:32 AM   #93
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Nevermind. How are Texas rat snakes in terms of temperament? I've been looking at them lately, and they seem like a good snake for me-they don't get huge, I like the colors, they're reasonably priced, and they seem like they keep their owners on their toes. Does anyone here have experience with these snakes? What about bull snakes?

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Old 12-15-11, 08:40 AM   #94
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Re: Nasty snakes?

Bull snakes can go either way from what I've learned on here, they can be vicious or puppy dog tame.
I thought Texas rats were generally docile?
Ultimately I would go to an expo and interact with the more aggressive ones to see what's right for you.
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Old 12-15-11, 08:41 AM   #95
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I've actually heard Texas rats are supposed to be pretty aggressive. Maybe they go both ways, like bull snakes, or maybe you could be thinking of black rat snakes?
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Get an atb.
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Old 12-15-11, 10:28 AM   #97
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Go to an expo and look at the bull and gopher snakes. Pick out one with the most agressive temperament and you will have the snake your looking for.
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Mose on here has some texas rats and when I was over there they were all puppy dog tame.
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same with my bullsnake.. shes such a suck loves to curl up against my neck
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Re: Nasty snakes?

I'm pretty sure there's a spectrum of nice--->mean snakes of every species. It's best you talk to breeders and people who have snakes that are willing to give you what they consider their most defensive snake, and start there. Again, you should get pretty comfortable with using a hook and gloves too; it wouldn't hurt to start practicing with your current boa
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Old 12-20-11, 09:00 AM   #101
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I haven't read the whole thread but - Radiated Rat snakes - mean, moody and fast as hell.

Tai Beauties? Would never describe them as mean or nasty - my two are as tame as any corn I've ever had.
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I have a cornsnake that is just as nasty as they come, LOL..But know thats not what you mean..Maybe you could adopt a snake that someone else is having trouble taming.It would be a good challenge and you'd know right from the get go your getting a nasty snake.
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or if you want an unpredictable snake - rough scaled sand boa - they lay their looking dead and then next second they have spun round and tagged you. Reminds me of some of the snakes you see on viperkeepers vids on youtube in terms of their sudden unpredictability - especially the females.
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get a blood python lol that will keep you on your toes
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Re: Nasty snakes?

I have a few points to make here Boosh, and a few to reiterate,

First and foremost, the members who have responded to your thread have given you A WEALTH of good information.

From the many other helpful members:

Buy a hook, and learn the tool on your docile snakes and take your time getting comfortable with it.

Watch behaviours as they can be telltale signs of what is to come in the next few seconds.

Snake temperament is as much an individual trait as it can be a species generality.

**Think about adopting an animal that someone else who may no longer have the time, patience, and care you intend to give an animal of this nature.

And the list goes on. Have a second read through!

Some of the opinions you have eluded to are responsible and the right order to be thinking in. If working with venomous reptiles is your dream (for whatever reason) I say go for it, but do it the right way, and always remember your choices affect you, your family and friends, and the entire reptile community.

In the grand scheme of things, you are going to have quite a few more years just working with snakes in general before starting to gain an understanding of the nature of the beast. Behaviour. What long-term care is like. Your boa is going to get very large, and you have yet to learn what that will be like. Without knowing the story behind your king, I'm guessing you haven't handled things like mites, internal parasites, force-feeds, mouth rot, regurgitation's, prolapses, probing, tubing, an escape, etc etc etc. A "difficult" non-venomous will not prepare you for that.

If you choose to pick up a challenging animal after you have taken the proper steps of learning how to use a hook on your calmer animals, awesome. I hope you adopt, and even more so I hope you stick with the animal for it's natural lifespan.

Stick around the forum. And read! A lot of the questions you've asked just need a little research!

I for one look forward to reading about your progress and experiences with your animals over the years as you slowly progress your way up to a respected, knowledgeable, and responsible keeper of whichever animals you choose to collect. Perhaps in a decade it will be you advising others that are wearing the shoes you have on now.

! As for your specific original question, if you're interested in learning methods to hook and handle a venomous snake by working with a similar non-venomous first pick a species that parallels the the ones you eventually hope to work with and learn the species and how they behave.

Perhaps do your research and come back and write a thread telling the community about all the interesting and important to remember facts you've learned about that particular species. Repetition compounds understanding.

Elapids - perhaps one of the aforementioned Rat snakes...

Arboreal Vipers - perhaps an arboreal boa/python...

Terrestrial vipers - start researching on your own and you tell me...


Hope that at least makes you think a little more, it's good for the brain!
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