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[marvelfreak]

Originally Posted by FWK

This list is incomplete, only covering 1990-2012. I'm pretty sure the total number for the US is still 17 including the highly suspect salmonella case and another incident where the keeper suffered a heart attack while dealing with a large Retic. The number for North America is 23, the incident with the two boys CrotulasR#1 mentioned occurred in Canada.

The list only has actually proven death cause physically by large constrictors.

The only way a boa could give someone salmonella is if they didn't properly clean their hands after handling it and said animal was keep in poor filthy living condition. So death by salmonella isn't really the constrictors fault but humans for not being clean.


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[FWK]

Originally Posted by marvelfreak

The list only has actually proven death cause physically by large constrictors.

The only way a boa could give someone salmonella is if they didn't properly clean their hands after handling it and said animal was keep in poor filthy living condition. So death by salmonella isn't really the constrictors fault but humans for not being clean.

The list only covers 1990-2012, there are well documented deaths between 1978 and 1989 as well. Every death on that list was the fault of the humans involved and entirely avoidable. The salmonella case, as I said, was and is highly suspect, most likely the hospitals error and had nothing to do with the snake.

Originally Posted by SSSSnakes

In this thread we are talking about Constrictor constrictor and not just any large snake. There is no question that many large snakes have killed people over the years. But here we are talking about a Boa constrictor that the lady is letting run loose in her house.

I am very much aware of the topics at hand.

Originally Posted by SSSSnakes

I agreed with you and now you start with the profanity. By forum rules your post should be removed. Adding **** to imply profanity is still against the rules.

You are often calling for threads to be shut down or posts to be removed for what you believe to be forum rules infections. Repeatedly attempting to silence those who disagree with you is just as transparent as becoming defensive because you don't have your facts straight.

Originally Posted by Flybit

omg my head hurts from slamming it against my computer...

You probably shouldn't do that.

[CrotalusR#1]

Originally Posted by FWK

The list only covers 1990-2012, there are well documented deaths between 1978 and 1989 as well. Every death on that list was the fault of the humans involved and entirely avoidable. The salmonella case, as I said, was and is highly suspect, most likely the hospitals error and had nothing to do with the snake.



I am very much aware of the topics at hand.



You are often calling for threads to be shut down or posts to be removed for what you believe to be forum rules infections. Repeatedly attempting to silence those who disagree with you is just as transparent as becoming defensive because you don't have your facts straight.



You probably shouldn't do that.

Very well spoken!

[SSSSnakes]

Originally Posted by FWK

You are often calling for threads to be shut down or posts to be removed for what you believe to be forum rules infections. Repeatedly attempting to silence those who disagree with you is just as transparent as becoming defensive because you don't have your facts straight.

Why have forum rules if the mods are not going to enforce them. If religion is not allowed to be discussed, then the thread should be stopped when religion is brought into it and needs to be discussed to fairly debate the subject. There are children on here, so when profanity in any form is used, the user should be warned and the thread edited. Please show me when I have ever not had my facts straight, or did not provide where my information came from.

[FWK]

I did not suggest that you did not have your facts straight, I only used your own words as an analogy to demonstrate my point.

Originally Posted by SSSSnakes

People tend to get defensive when they can not prove their point.

As such. I expected you'd get that but instead you became defensive. Posting in all bold is about as obnoxious as all caps. I feel like you are yelling at me. Perhaps if you use all caps, bold text and continue to insist on getting the last word you will drown the rest of us out and everyone will agree with you. Worth a try I'm sure, there are ways to silence people other than attempting to force your interpretations of the rules on the them yes? The strange thing is we seem to be in agreement on the major issues here, the care of the Boa in question and the risk (or lack thereof) it poses to the humans it comes into contact with. Yet you insist on goading anyone who posts here. Not that your back and forth with CrotalusR#1 and the others has not been at least, I'm sure, mildly entertaining.

[SSSSnakes]

Originally Posted by FWK

I did not suggest that you did not have your facts straight, I only used your own words as an analogy to demonstrate my point.



As such. I expected you'd get that but instead you became defensive. Posting in all bold is about as obnoxious as all caps. I feel like you are yelling at me. Perhaps if you use all caps, bold text and continue to insist on getting the last word you will drown the rest of us out and everyone will agree with you. Worth a try I'm sure, there are ways to silence people other than attempting to force your interpretations of the rules on the them yes? The strange thing is we seem to be in agreement on the major issues here, the care of the Boa in question and the risk (or lack thereof) it poses to the humans it comes into contact with. Yet you insist on goading anyone who posts here. Not that your back and forth with CrotalusR#1 and the others has not been at least, I'm sure, mildly entertaining.

Again, people trying to interpret what I do. I posted in bold to make it easier for everyone to see the response from the original post. It had nothing to do with being defensive, just trying to be creative.