Great Animal Escapes- get on TV!!

[stephanbakir]

That's awesome Kyle.

[infernalis]

What is awesome, is at the exact moment I was putting the snake font text on my picture, Kyle was pasting house on the hulk..

How freaky is that?

[millertime89]

its just awesome. I wish I was at home, that photochop job would've looked a lot better. All I've got at work is MS Paint

[infernalis]

Haha - I used Fireworks. Na na na

[millertime89]

:P these work computers blow, no google chrome, no java, no flash, no silverlight. We've been having virus problems as of late so we're back to bare bones for the most part. Oh well, at least we have W7.

[Great Animal Es]

Originally Posted by KORBIN5895

Have you ever seen what a coy dog ( not a coyote because there is a difference ) can do to a horse? I have. My friends horse was attacked by a coy dog. It wasn't pretty. The horse survived but its rear leg was pretty mangled. The dog didn't survive. What if his 9 year old daughter would've been out with the horse?

Surely this is simply showing a preference to certain animals over others? If a wild and poisonous snake was found on your land, terrorising your horses and possibly your family, would your first reaction be to kill the snake, or to "re-home" it? After all, your land is it's natural habitat, and the same could potentially be said about a wild coydog (assuming it was wild, as i don't know this particular story).

We're not looking to shed a bad light on reptilia and their owners/keepers, and will (as I think was clear at the top of this thread) be featuring all kinds of animals. Furthermore, I'll repeat it again, we're looking to hook with some interesting footage (which doesn't have to be the actual escape, but should include the animal "on the loose" for want of a friendlier and more accurate phrase), before educating the viewers with expert opinions and salient and possibly unknown facts.

Please feel free to ignore this thread as it seems everyone's position is quite clear now - thanks for your opinions and apologies for the bad press you've received.

[infernalis]

A coy dog is a hybrid of Coyote and Dog.

The result of bad people dumping off dogs in the country, Being a pack animal, the dog will join forces with the coyote pack and produce litters of coy-dogs.

[Lankyrob]

One thing to get right in your program when talking about snakes - they are VENOMOUS not POISONOUS - one very common mistake that people make when talking about snakes that is pretty much guaranteed to get the majority of snake owners backs up

[stephanbakir]

Originally Posted by Lankyrob

One thing to get right in your program when talking about snakes - they are VENOMOUS not POISONOUS - one very common mistake that people make when talking about snakes that is pretty much guaranteed to get the majority of snake owners backs up

Biggest pet peeve ever! ^

[stephanbakir]

Originally Posted by Great Animal Es

Surely this is simply showing a preference to certain animals over others? If a wild and poisonous snake was found on your land, terrorising your horses and possibly your family, would your first reaction be to kill the snake, or to "re-home" it? After all, your land is it's natural habitat, and the same could potentially be said about a wild coydog (assuming it was wild, as i don't know this particular story).

We're not looking to shed a bad light on reptilia and their owners/keepers, and will (as I think was clear at the top of this thread) be featuring all kinds of animals. Furthermore, I'll repeat it again, we're looking to hook with some interesting footage (which doesn't have to be the actual escape, but should include the animal "on the loose" for want of a friendlier and more accurate phrase), before educating the viewers with expert opinions and salient and possibly unknown facts.

Please feel free to ignore this thread as it seems everyone's position is quite clear now - thanks for your opinions and apologies for the bad press you've received.

I've had loads of NATIVE animals find their way onto my property and the property of others, the more dangerous of these are Rattlesnakes, bobcats, lynx, coyotes, wolves and a hawk (That last one was easier to catch then you would expect rofl)

I relocated EVERY animal on that list, by means of harmless traps, and got injured on a few of them and still have no regrets.

[Great Animal Es]

that's exactly my point stefan, thanks, and that's why i don't understand why other people wouldn't choose to relocate a dog (wild or domesticated) as their first option instead of opting to shoot it first.

it's besides the point though...

[infernalis]

I may have came across wrongly, I do not shoot wildlife on my property, unless it is in the animal's best interest.

Rabid Raccoons, animals attacking my pets, sick critters that are dying anyways...

Other than that, I allow nature to be left alone.

There is a big hawk that roosts in my hedge, I have seen it eat snakes, but that is the natural food chain in motion, and regardless of my passion for snakes, the hawk is only doing what nature intended it to do, so I refuse to disrupt the hawk from having a meal.

[stephanbakir]

Originally Posted by Great Animal Es

that's exactly my point stefan, thanks, and that's why i don't understand why other people wouldn't choose to relocate a dog (wild or domesticated) as their first option instead of opting to shoot it first.

it's besides the point though...

a coydog cannot be relocated it is a hybrid and has no native environment, eliminating it will hopefully end its reign of terror.

Originally Posted by infernalis

I may have came across wrongly, I do not shoot wildlife on my property, unless it is in the animal's best interest.

Rabid Raccoons, animals attacking my pets, sick critters that are dying anyways...

Other than that, I allow nature to be left alone.

There is a big hawk that roosts in my hedge, I have seen it eat snakes, but that is the natural food chain in motion, and regardless of my passion for snakes, the hawk is only doing what nature intended it to do, so I refuse to disrupt the hawk from having a meal.

I agree, the only reason I ever relocate something is if it attacks people, or pets and proves to be a dangerous animal, the hawk for instance roosted about 200 feet from my house and decided that we needed to leave, dive bombed us every time we left the house. That I simply will not tolerate, so I moved him out of the country and into the deep bush.

[KORBIN5895]

Originally Posted by Great Animal Es

that's exactly my point stefan, thanks, and that's why i don't understand why other people wouldn't choose to relocate a dog (wild or domesticated) as their first option instead of opting to shoot it first.

it's besides the point though...

The real problem with coys are that anything from a beagle to a bull mastiff can breed coys. Now we had a pack of coyotes that had a German Sheppard , a Siberian husky ( or a malamute) and a rottie running with it
Now just imagine those three breeds feral mixed with coyote and on your property. I would dearly love to see anyone try to trap one and then try to re-domesticate them.

Wayne is right that the chain of life is the chain of life but my pet isn't part of that chain nor is a domestic dog running wild in the woods a part of that chain. Some of the best hunting I have ever done was coyote hunting. One of the worst things I have ever hunted was a friends coin dog that got rabies and we were unable to catch. I shoot nothing for pleasure or entertainment.

As for venomous snakes on my property goes relocation is a better option. I don't know of many snakes that will attack without being provoked. That being said if it was a snake or my child the snake would be the first to die..... but then again how would you kill something that fast? I had a .22 revolver I carried back home but I am not a good enough shot to put a snake down with a .22 no matter how many shots I have. So add that with a pet or a loved one within striking distance well the whole scenario becomes moot. Better to relocate what can be relocated and eliminate what needs eliminated.

[infernalis]

don't want to give the impression that we shoot things willy nilly.. must be justified.