Iguana help please! - Page 5

snakemann87 · 04-11-03, 02:40 PM

no Im not BSin, im not trying to get big herps, why would i have a ball python and a spiny tailed iguana and a longtail grass lizard? Im not trying to gain respect by power posting i never even intended on power posting. I just posted often when i first joined, in no way am i saying im experience due to my number of posts i have.

marisa · 04-11-03, 02:41 PM

You said:

"YOu guys have opinions, nothing i can do about it"

This is NOT the point! You are buying animals, finding out they take vet care, then returning them. This IS NOT AN OPINION, ITS A FACT THAT IS IT WRONG. PERIOD.

I am sorry but the bottom line here is....and forget all this argueing and fighting...the BOTTOM LINE is you don't buy animals and return them because you don't want to take it to a vet. YOU JUST DON'T. It's not right. And its not o.k. This is fact, not opinion.

And you don't purchase things without researching. Sure it happens. But the vet care? NO EXCUSE. It should have been at a vet right away. THEN AFTER a vet visit you can return to the pet store you purchased it from and complain.

But the LIZARD SHOULD NOT HAVE TO PAY FOR THE PET STORES MISTAKES. Which is exactly what you made him do. The little lizard got returned for being sick when it was a humans fault. He should have been at the vet, THEN you deal with your money problems with the pet store. Period. Animals health #1 not worrying over a refund.

Marisa

Zoe · 04-11-03, 02:42 PM

Yes BW, that's what I meant. I could say "Ssnakess.com is not on the internet". Just because I say that, doesn't make it true.

By the way, I also you believe you lied about buying back the lizard.

snakemann87 · 04-11-03, 02:45 PM

believe what you want. When I got all my snakes, the first thing i did was take them all to a vet.

Zoe · 04-11-03, 02:56 PM

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im not trying to get big herps

Oops, I guess we forgot that burms only grow 5 feet and that boas only grow 3 feet.

Look, NO ONE believes you anymore. You've lost any shred of respect you ever had. Doesn't the fact that everyone is getting after you mean anything to you? And that isn't even the point! You can be stupid, immature, stubborn and ignorant all you want, for the next few years it'll be your parents' problem. but you CANT ACT THAT WAY AROUND A LIVING BEING!!!!! It isn't good, it isn't okay, it isn't even acceptable, and any decent, intelligent person can see that.

What bugs me most, is after all of these posts (many of which were very insightful and intelligent) you still believe that you did is okay. Either you're too dumb, or too stubborn to see the mistakes you've made! And you've made them, and been "flamed" for them, so many times I've lost count. Why don't you just admit defeat, take our advice and care for your herps PROPERLY, spending all the $$ required (which is something you must agree to do before even thinking about buying a live animal!), OR just give up keeping herps altogether.

Personally, I wouldn't trust you to care for a guppie, which is pathetic because I could trust my 7yr old cousin to.

Zoe

BurmBaroness · 04-11-03, 02:58 PM

Well, I see alot has happened while I was away. First, let me say I was NOT surprised at ALl by what SM did. When he got his burm, he stated that he bought a normal at a reptile show, then some people offered him $200 for it. After someone else told him it was an indian python, he sold it to those people, and then went back and bought the labyrinth he has now. That is HIS story. I cannot see anyone at a reptile show, where normal burms are $80, buying the one he had for $200. He got the first one, he didn't like it for whatever reason, so he got rid of it and bought the lab. after weeks of asking advice from experienced burm keepers who advised him he was not ready for a burm. So, am I surprised? No, it just fits in with everything else I know about him. And he made a comment on a rescue post here once, that said he would be glad when he was able to do rescues. SORRY..........rescues are NOT cheap. They are usually sick, dehydrated, starved, chewed on, etc. Not something I think you'd make the investment of necessary vet bills on. When the snakes you have become ill, or you get tired of them, there are plenty of us who ARE committed to these animals that we will be GLAD to pay for their health care and recovery. I have 4 snakes here, a 10ft+ burm, a 7ft burm, a 6ft BCi, and a 5.5ft BCI/BCO cross, that were all rescues and adopted by me. not all were sick, not all were in bad shale, but the BCI had to go to the vet IMMEDIATELY, and it was thought she may even need surgery. FREE?? Absolutely NOT. If you can't handle a $50-$60 vet bill, do your snakes a favor, and get them to a rescue now, before it they have a chance to get sick to start with. Speaking of sick, that is exaclty what your attitude makes me. SICK

JD@reptiles · 04-11-03, 03:08 PM

OUCH! got you there.

snakemann87 · 04-11-03, 03:14 PM

no i just didnt want to reply but just to varify he was a indian X burm cross and very ight at that. So they offered me 200 and i said no until i found out it was a cross, i was interested in a full burm.

andrea88 · 04-11-03, 03:45 PM

It looks to me like you are quite fond of disposing of herps, snakenann87.
Here are some quotes from a few of your old posts:

"Congrats, I had a corn snake before, but.....um........it got kinda boring, no offense. He was an amelanistic corn."

"awww, lol, reminds me of my old iguana, they can have such personalitys"

"ok, i have kept two green iguanas"

So, you are 14 and have already disposed of 5 herps? (The 3 above, your 1rst burm and now this new iguana?) Thats pretty weak.

BurmBaroness · 04-11-03, 03:46 PM

Sure, sure, whatever. Same difference, trading animals lie baseball cards, only to alot of people, baseball cards ar emore important. They care more for their cards than you seem to care for an animal's well-being.

snakemann87 · 04-11-03, 03:52 PM

you guys can go on and on(which is quite sad since most of you are adults)and it will not affect me in any way. I have thought about it and realized i was wrong which is why i re-purchased it.

norman · 04-11-03, 04:14 PM

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you guys can go on and on(which is quite sad since most of you are adults)and it will not affect me in any way.

The fact that it will not affect you is what i find so frustrating.

BWSmith · 04-11-03, 04:27 PM

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you guys can go on and on(which is quite sad since most of you are adults)and it will not affect me in any way

If I had the means, I would remove your animals to good homes and trade you to Gypsies for some Magic Beans.

Zoe · 04-11-03, 04:29 PM

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you guys can go on and on(which is quite sad since most of you are adults)and it will not affect me in any way.

It saddens me that you would say such a thing. We aren't attacking you for no reason, we're trying to make you see that what you're doing is wrong. And it's not as though this is your first post and you were just a newbie and didn't know what you were doing, in which case it could be somewhat understandable.

It SHOULD affect you. If it doesn't, you have a problem. We aren't INSULTING you, we're stating facts and trying to help you become a better herper. The fact that you can't see that just makes you stubborn and ingrateful.

nicola_boulton · 04-11-03, 05:19 PM

my turn my turn!!!!
i just like 2 say that i am also 14, and when ever i get a new herp i always RESEARCH, RESEARCH, RESEARCH!!!! ive had sick herps in the past and i have always in all of my power 2 make them better and live them to their last day. I hope that this has afected u in that so many people have tried 2 make u see that you r wrong, and also thank u andrea for the quotes becase i think its sad that u hav discarded so many previous herps!!!!