Dangerous pet products that should never be used for pets - Page 4

KORBIN5895 · 08-10-12, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by franks

Lol Korbin your unprovoked belligerence is amusing. Up front, I want you to know, no offense taken since this is all in the spirit of forum discussion. With that said, since you so respectfully asked me to explain myself:

I build and sell custom enclosures, so I understand lumber is safe AFTER IT IS SEALED. The fact that it is pine is part of the reason we seal it btw.
I understand that kiln dried pine is safe, it has no oil. The bags that I was referring to all explicitly stated “Not kiln dried to help substrate retain humidity.”
Hope this helps.

Ummm... no I didn't.

One thing you have to learn is this. I am just like mykee but without all of the experience and I am not so smart. Other than that you just have to learn how to take me. I not always intentionally rude I just lack the natural filters others seem to have and I don't particularly care to try too hard sometimes. If I come off rude its nothing personal... I just didn't take the time to filter my thoights ans just fired away. Sometimes I reread stuff and have to edit my whole post or ask a mod to remove it.

Wait! You build custom cages? Sweet! Post some pics! I just built a 4'x2'x2' enclosure a couple of months ago. I love dyi enclosures.

More questions! How would non kiln dried pine shavins be better for humidity retention?

**Pareeeee** · 08-10-12, 07:36 PM

This is a great thread!! I e-mailed some people that were selling heat rocks in the classifieds and told them they should throw them away because they are very dangerous. I never got a response...

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Originally Posted by snake man12

Glass Aquariums
They don't hold any humidity or temperature, they can be escaped easily unless the proper clips are purchased.
Also cleaning is a problem because of the weight of the glass and they are very fragile. Also they offer almost no security for the reptile.
They are mad for fish not reptiles, Don't use them, either buy a tub or make a custom enclosure.

This I disagree with - it is all relative to the type of reptile you are trying to keep. I would not keep a Ball Python in a glass terrarium, for instance, since they are shy snakes with high humidity requirements.

My Rosy Boa, Boaz, does well in his glass terrarium since he is a desert-dweller who needs a dry environment. All you have to do is black out the sides and back with bristol board, or if you feel like something more permanent, paint them. I also have one of those metal tops that clicks into place around the plastic edging on the top of the tank. It doesn't budge...not with a *small* snake like Boaz, anyway.

Wildside · 08-13-12, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by KORBIN5895

Ummm... no I didn't.

One thing you have to learn is this. I am just like mykee but without all of the experience and I am not so smart. Other than that you just have to learn how to take me. I not always intentionally rude I just lack the natural filters others seem to have and I don't particularly care to try too hard sometimes. If I come off rude its nothing personal... I just didn't take the time to filter my thoights ans just fired away. Sometimes I reread stuff and have to edit my whole post or ask a mod to remove it.

Wait! You build custom cages? Sweet! Post some pics! I just built a 4'x2'x2' enclosure a couple of months ago. I love dyi enclosures.

More questions! How would non kiln dried pine shavins be better for humidity retention?

It's better for humidity retention regarding plants, still dangerous for reptiles.

Wildside · 08-13-12, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Pareeeee

This is a great thread!! I e-mailed some people that were selling heat rocks in the classifieds and told them they should throw them away because they are very dangerous. I never got a response...

This I disagree with - it is all relative to the type of reptile you are trying to keep. I would not keep a Ball Python in a glass terrarium, for instance, since they are shy snakes with high humidity requirements.

My Rosy Boa, Boaz, does well in his glass terrarium since he is a desert-dweller who needs a dry environment. All you have to do is black out the sides and back with bristol board, or if you feel like something more permanent, paint them. I also have one of those metal tops that clicks into place around the plastic edging on the top of the tank. It doesn't budge...not with a *small* snake like Boaz, anyway.

I don't think glass aquariums should be in this thread at all. While we can all agree that they're not "the best" for every reptile they certainly are not "Dangerous"

Evolieno · 08-19-12, 04:45 PM

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Analog thermometers and hygrometers-Cheap and popular, this seems to be the standard for checking the environment. Why are they dangerous? Analog meters are known for being very inaccurate, as well as having the tendancy to get "stuck" on a specific reading. Knowing the exact temperatures and humidity levels is essential to keeping reptiles. If your instruments aren't reading properly, it's very possible to over or underheat your reptile, or dry them out or give them too much humidity.

Not to mention, new reptile owners don't always realize the adhesive used to stick them to the inside of the enclosure doesn't stick well to glass, etc. Especially when the reptile requires humidity. However, it does unfortunately stick TOO well to a reptile's scales. I found that out the hard way with my first snake years ago. And it is all too common. It can be a pain To remove from the reptile, and depending on how severe the damage is, aid in or cause scale rot. I was so scared when this happened to me, and it had never crossed my mind when I purchased them back then! I felt so terrible that I had to learn this the hard way and seemed like even after all the research I had done for my snake, that I was a terrible owner.

LORDOFDARKNESS · 10-14-12, 03:18 PM

i recommend aspen bedding, always works for me.

jhinton6932 · 10-22-12, 08:47 AM

pressure treated plywood. unless you line it with FRP board or another plastic board, PT plywood contains loads of things that can be harmful. easier to avoid it all together.

Wyldrose · 10-27-12, 12:13 AM

Heres on that bothers me: Hermit crab bling kit. Hermit crabs are all wild caught so putting glitter and glueing pompoms onto them is inhumane... http://www.petco.com/Assets/product_...081200022C.jpg

For the furry critters, Hartz flea and worm meds(actually a lot of pet meds sold in grocery and petshop fall into this too). One slight miss calculation and your animal is having seizures and/or dying from an over does. You Vet is the best place to buy these usually without them having to see your animals.

A note to add to the yesterdays news and other paper pellets. They can contain up to 10% of floor sweepings. Which can be bits of plastic, staples, glass etc. I use to use it for mice until I had to pick things out of it.

KORBIN5895 · 10-27-12, 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Wyldrose

Heres on that bothers me: Hermit crab bling kit. Hermit crabs are all wild caught so putting glitter and glueing pompoms onto them is inhumane... http://www.petco.com/Assets/product_...081200022C.jpg

For the furry critters, Hartz flea and worm meds(actually a lot of pet meds sold in grocery and petshop fall into this too). One slight miss calculation and your animal is having seizures and/or dying from an over does. You Vet is the best place to buy these usually without them having to see your animals.

A note to add to the yesterdays news and other paper pellets. They can contain up to 10% of floor sweepings. Which can be bits of plastic, staples, glass etc. I use to use it for mice until I had to pick things out of it.

The fact that hermit crabs are wild caught has nothing to do with how humane glue pompoms to their shell is.

This thread is about things truly harmful not things that are harmful because of misuse.

Snickers · 10-28-12, 03:53 AM

I've used carefresh with no problems.

EmbraceCalamity · 10-28-12, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Snickers

I've used carefresh with no problems.

Same. I used tons of Carefresh for my rat and never had to pick anything out of it. I'd tried some other things, but she really loves it. Now I only use a little just for her bed since she's been moved into a converted bookcase though.

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Originally Posted by Wyldrose

Heres on that bothers me: Hermit crab bling kit. Hermit crabs are all wild caught so putting glitter and glueing pompoms onto them is inhumane... http://www.petco.com/Assets/product_...081200022C.jpg

How exactly is that inhumane? I don't know anything about hermit crabs, but is it really gonna bother them having something on the outside of their shell?

~Maggot

BarelyBreathing · 10-28-12, 09:48 AM

I specifically stated why Care Fresh was horrible for reptiles. It was made for rodents, that is why it's on the list.

EmbraceCalamity · 10-28-12, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BarelyBreathing

I specifically stated why Care Fresh was horrible for reptiles. It was made for rodents, that is why it's on the list.

I'm not sure who you're talking to, but people were replying to this:

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Originally Posted by Wyldrose

A note to add to the yesterdays news and other paper pellets. They can contain up to 10% of floor sweepings. Which can be bits of plastic, staples, glass etc. I use to use it for mice until I had to pick things out of it.

So I'm not sure the point you're making.

~Maggot