My wife's first snake, Sidney - Page 4

Lankyrob · 11-29-11, 06:48 PM

I dont mind at all aaron, all mine are melamine, built by a local cabinet maker who happens to be the father of the guy who owns the reptile shop i use

. They would be cheaper to make myself but i dont have the health or skills for that sort of work.

I can see both sides of this discussion, yes you can use aquariums for snakes and with a fair amount of adapting it can work, personally i prefer both the look and the ease of use of the wooden vivarium, would love to have all boaphiles but that just isnt financially viable

mattchibi · 11-29-11, 10:17 PM

In terms of cost and effectiveness, IMO tubs are the way to go. Whether you have a rack or not, self-standing tubs can work really well. Temps and humidity are a breeze with tubs. And it wont cost you what a viv would. Cleaning is also made easier. To the OP, PM me if you want a tutorial for a cheap tub system that works fantasticly.

I think a lot of people start out using glass tanks and switch to something better.. at least thats the trend I've been seeing. Aaron is right in saying that glass tanks arent really viable and it is a bit of a waste of money to set it all up and then after a few months switch to something better, but as a beginner, what can you really do? It takes those first few months of "learning" about your snakes needs to be able to build a wooden viv or make an appropriate purchase for your BP.

spots · 11-29-11, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by mattchibi

In terms of cost and effectiveness, IMO tubs are the way to go. Whether you have a rack or not, self-standing tubs can work really well. Temps and humidity are a breeze with tubs. And it wont cost you what a viv would. Cleaning is also made easier. To the OP, PM me if you want a tutorial for a cheap tub system that works fantasticly.

I think a lot of people start out using glass tanks and switch to something better.. at least thats the trend I've been seeing. Aaron is right in saying that glass tanks arent really viable and it is a bit of a waste of money to set it all up and then after a few months switch to something better, but as a beginner, what can you really do? It takes those first few months of "learning" about your snakes needs to be able to build a wooden viv or make an appropriate purchase for your BP.

Hey if you don't mind Pm me that tutorial for tub system that would be cool. Thanks

**millertime89** · 11-29-11, 11:09 PM

I just made the switch to tubs, so much easier.
Matt, if you don't mind, could you PM that to me as well? I don't really need it I would just like to peruse it for any info that could be useful.

Norm66 · 11-30-11, 06:04 AM

The only problem I see with tubs besides making sure they're secure is that you can't see the animal inside them. These aren't in a reptile room, they're in my living room (very small house).

Matt, I would still like to see the tutorial you mentioned, go ahead and PM it to me when you have a chance.

mattchibi · 11-30-11, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Norm66

The only problem I see with tubs besides making sure they're secure is that you can't see the animal inside them. These aren't in a reptile room, they're in my living room (very small house).

Matt, I would still like to see the tutorial you mentioned, go ahead and PM it to me when you have a chance.

You're right, glass tanks can work fine. Esp if you black out three sides. However, if your husbandry is suffering (not saying that it is, but IF) then you may want to look into changing your setup to a tub. The tub setup that I pm'd u guys only costs less than $100-150 depending on where you live and how available some things are. The way I see it is: ball pythons are not naturally good showcase animals, not in the slightest lol. Glass tanks facilitate the needs of HUMANS better than it does the needs of snakes. Just some brain food to think about

That being said, I too am personally using a glass tank for one of my ball pythons. The husbandry is suffering and during shed times, I have to mist like a maniac. I still have a relatively happy snake but I think she will be much more happy when I have room to move her into my racks.

Cheers

Lankyrob · 11-30-11, 08:44 AM

Whilst i prefer the look of plastic vivs, i also dont like tubs because a) they dont display as well imo and b)you cant see the animals inside so well.

Here is my display (also in my main living room)

mattchibi · 11-30-11, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Lankyrob

Whilst i prefer the look of plastic vivs, i also dont like tubs because a) they dont display as well imo and b)you cant see the animals inside so well.

Here is my display (also in my main living room)

Wow. See if I had the time and money to shell out on a PROPER setup, it would look like this!!! Unfortunately since I will be breeding, money is kind of tight. And as long as husbandry is ok, I am content with my tubs/racks for now

Edit: btw, did you buy or make those, rob?

Norm66 · 11-30-11, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by mattchibi

Glass tanks facilitate the needs of HUMANS better than it does the needs of snakes.

Well, sure but in general aren't the whole idea of pets to please humans?

Thanks for the link Matt, I'll check it out this evening.

Rob, I love your setup. It's awesome. I'm envisioning something very similar to the stack three cages in the middle of the pic you posted.

Lankyrob · 11-30-11, 09:07 AM

They were all bought - got good prices as the cabinet maker is the father of the guy who owns our reptile shop

spots · 11-30-11, 11:13 AM

NICE set up Rob, that's same as I going for. The better part for me is I can build mine

What do you use for heat sources in your Viv's Rob?

KORBIN5895 · 11-30-11, 12:13 PM

Hey Rob, did I mention I am so jealous!

Lankyrob · 11-30-11, 01:45 PM

Thanks for the compliments

I use Ceramic Heat Emitters in all the snake cages and Mercury Vapour Bulbs for the two lizards (heat and full spectrum UV in one bulb!)

spots · 11-30-11, 03:56 PM

The bulb type of Ceramic Heat Emitters ?
LOL never mind I just answered my own question by looking closer to your picture.

**Aaron_S** · 11-30-11, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Norm66

Well, sure but in general aren't the whole idea of pets to please humans?...

Sure that may be a reason but it doesn't mean we need to skimp on their needs or best interest for our sake too. We chose them, they didn't choose us. Why should we cut their needs for our benefit?