Tiger attacks boy in Elgin - Page 4

anacondaman · 06-15-04, 05:06 PM

even if the animal can (under your own terms) be trusted it should still wear a muzzle. saves the dog and other dog owners alot of legal trouble. im sure that guy with the tiger trusted his big cat enough to take it out without a muzzle and look wat it got him!

adam

mykee · 06-15-04, 05:17 PM

I disagree with the whole 'muzzle every dog' theory. Why punish all dogs for the stupidity of a very small percentage of owners?

meow_mix450 · 06-15-04, 05:28 PM

Well its either the muzzle or its gonna be put to sleep, most choose muzzle, its for the safety from the general public. Better off with a muzzle.

Meow

anacondaman · 06-15-04, 05:36 PM

ya....although dogs prefer not to have it, its for the best of the community. it helps not only the people of the community but the dog owner community as well.

mykee · 06-15-04, 05:43 PM

Who made this stoopid rule?!, I would NEVER muzzle my dog, under any circumstances in public, and I find it quite insulting for you to classify 'those' types of dog owners and 'my' kind of dog owners, the type of responsible owners that make up 95% of dog owners under one giant, uneducated, misinformed umbrella.

V.hb · 06-15-04, 05:51 PM

Actually, I dont have my dog muzzled sorry for the confusion. I use a halty. They work great for controlling larger dogs. My dog just doesnt fare well outdoors with other dogs, or people. I always warn people that want to approach him that he can be very unpredictable. So usually, i steer him away from other dogs, and people.

meow_mix450 · 06-15-04, 05:58 PM

mykee: Everyone here has got there own opinon, you dont like the idea of a muzzle but not many people do. People do this to stay away from trouble, i honestly dont think they want a muzzle on the poor dog. I'd rather put a muzzle on the dog then put it to sleep, or i would only let my dog out the backyard. I use to have a dog, when hes out side he starts barking at people its instinct, after that happened i only let him out the backyard

Meow

anacondaman · 06-15-04, 07:32 PM

yes...im sure the dog will survive with a muzzle on.... its for your dogs beneifit..i know many people say their dogs will never bite...but all those stories of dogs attacking little kids, do u think those people would have let their dogs near their kids if they didnt trust it. if your dog did some serious harm to someone it could effect other people who keep dogs too. if a rule was set in place like all dogs must wear muzzles then im sure there would be alot less problems as far as dog ownership goes.

ReptiliansDOTca · 06-15-04, 07:56 PM

Quote:

I would NEVER muzzle my dog, under any circumstances in public, and I find it quite insulting for you to classify 'those' types of dog owners and 'my' kind of dog owners, the type of responsible owners that make up 95% of dog owners under one giant, uneducated, misinformed umbrella.

Were you referring to what I said? If so then I will comment, and if not why bother right? LoL.

I definitely disagree with the whole muzzle every dog thing. Thats like saying to ban every reptile because some moron screwed up somehow, and someone got injured. You should know your dog, and if you think your dog has the capability to bite someone while you have him outside in a public area, then muzzling is definitely required.

meow_mix450 · 06-15-04, 08:36 PM

exactly that is what i meant if you know your dog bites then put a muzzle when brought out side, not EVERY dog should have one, that would just be over board

Meow

mykee · 06-15-04, 09:05 PM

I agree, I'm not muzzling my Lab because some high-strung pittbull or rotti decides to eat a child. I think that the dogs who are most likely to attack (we all know what those breeds are) should be forced to take extensive training and then tested on whether or not he/she is suitable as a 'good citizen' dog. Owners should also be fined or made to pay for the medical bills/funeral expenses of any person (s) injured or mauled by their dog, along with euthanizing of the dog, and possibly even jail time for the owner. The owners of these 'problem' breeds get off way to damn light in my opinion. Start hitting them where it hurts.

sleddergirl · 06-15-04, 09:11 PM

I agree with Mykee on the muzzling issue............an often worn muzzle can foster aggression with some dogs. Tank was 2 years old when we adopted him. He was previously abused and a "possible ex-fighter" (the words of the SPCA). He was there for 3 mths and never showed any signs of aggression, then they had him tested for his aggression level and he passed with flying colours. He is a wonderful dog....................BUT between my husband and I, we have over 30 years experience with the breed. I, unlike a lot of pit owners (mostly the kids that use them as status symbols) understand the breed. An APBT is not a dog that belongs in a leash free park, under ANY circumstances. They are also not dogs that are for a first time owner.......most terriers aren't. Terriers tend to be very smart and very stubborn. They challenge you at the best of times and anyone who considers owning them needs to prepare themselves, in order to be responsible owners.
BTW, I also rescued a 12 week old pit puppy that had been horribly mistreated. Locked in a cage for a month straight, living off his mothers feces, broken tail, mange, worms, etc. Now at first glance most people would think that this dog was young enough to recover from his emotional scars............not true. In his case, all his damage was done to him in the most formative time in his life and he never recovered. Dispite our many attempts to train, reassure and calm him, he continued to be a fear biter............a very dangerous situation. At 6 mths of age, we made the decision to have him put down. Some would argue that I could've placed him in another home, etc but we made the decision to not allow there to be a dog that is a potential "loaded weapon"................just my experience..........

Oliverian · 06-15-04, 09:14 PM

I agree Mykee. My mom has a daycare, and they were walking to the pool one day when a big dog ran up from a guys yard and started barking. Well naturally one of the kids ran and when he did, the dog jumped on him and took a big chunk out of his leg..

The guy was warned to put a muzzle on his dog for a while, and now a few months later the dog is running in the yard free still. It could happen to anyone just walking by, and the guy gets off so easily!
Very scary stuff. The kid is now scared of large dogs and won't go near the house (with good reason!) >

It's like the idea that if a robber comes into your yard at night, trips and breaks his leg, he can sue you! Now that just isn't right.... Just about happened to us. :S Luckily the guy didn't end up suing. Stupid laws.

-TammyR

mykee · 06-15-04, 09:31 PM

Sleddergirl, it's wonderful to hear of a responsible owner, who also knows their own limitations. It is truly unfortunate that there are not more intelligent, knowledgeable pitt owners like you and yours out there to simply offset the stupidity and irresponsibility of other owners. Keep up the good work.

sleddergirl · 06-15-04, 09:36 PM

I appreciate that Mykee..........thanks. With all the discrimination against the breed, its nice to hear some acknowledgement of responsible pet ownership. We have been taking in rescues of all species for some time now and I'm unfortunately getting a little tired of cleaning up other people's mistakes. Regardless, thanks for the kind comments.