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04-05-13, 06:49 AM
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Re: The mangrove eating shrimp
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Because not all organic shrimp is free from perservative etc etc.
Organic can be a very misleading label...
Check the ingredients...
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This is why I asked. Both of them are probably bad honestly, and organic is most likely a scheme to raise prices. But they have to do something to put the label. I don't think either one are fed a healthy diet. But I'll buy the organic just because its less harmful I guess.
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04-05-13, 07:23 AM
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Re: The mangrove eating shrimp
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The shrimp I fed Chomper was not organic, It was the cheap garbage wal mart sells.
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I thought you said it was organic but has a phosphate (?) Preservative......
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04-05-13, 08:52 AM
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Re: The mangrove eating shrimp
Easier to just go with crayfish (cheaper too  ). No worry about preservatives, salt content, thiaminase, etc.
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04-05-13, 09:01 AM
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Re: The mangrove eating shrimp
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Easier to just go with crayfish (cheaper too ). No worry about preservatives, salt content, thiaminase, etc. |
Don't some indicus complex have a salt excretion gland ????
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04-05-13, 09:05 AM
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Re: The mangrove eating shrimp
They do indeed. Unfortunately their preservatives excretion gland (liver) can only handle so much. And so far they havent evolved a thiamine production gland either. Silly monitors
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04-05-13, 09:07 AM
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Re: The mangrove eating shrimp
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They do indeed. Unfortunately their preservatives excretion gland (liver) can only handle so much. And so far they havent evolved a thiamine production gland either. Silly monitors |
Now when u say excretion gland do u mean only there liver or a specifically designed gland under the nare in which they specially excrete the salt straight out ? As I knw a few have this adaptation ....
Not that I don't agree silly monis 
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04-05-13, 10:27 AM
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Re: The mangrove eating shrimp
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I thought you said it was organic but has a phosphate (?) Preservative......
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I think the wires got crossed. I now purchase organic, back then I purchased whatever was on sale at the moment.
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04-05-13, 11:05 AM
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Re: The mangrove eating shrimp
I doubt very much "Chomper" died because the shrimp he ate wasn`t organic (I don`t think Wayne`s inferring that at all)!?
As has been mentioned by "varanus mad", the word "organic" doesn`t necessarily mean it`s free of preservatives, etc. I`ve heard feeding eggs leads to health problems too, another "overkill"; they would need to feed almost exclusively on them to develop problems. I`ve heard goldfish can never be fed either (yes they can), though I`m not suggesting they form a very regular or important (large) part of the diet.
Most captive Varanids die too soon because of poor conditions, not because they ate some supposedly "unhealthy" dietary items on occasion.
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04-05-13, 11:06 AM
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Re: The mangrove eating shrimp
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Don't some indicus complex have a salt excretion gland ????
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Hi, yes they do have salt secreting glands!
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04-05-13, 02:38 PM
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Re: The mangrove eating shrimp
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Now when u say excretion gland do u mean only there liver or a specifically designed gland under the nare in which they specially excrete the salt straight out ? As I knw a few have this adaptation ....
Not that I don't agree silly monis |
Sorry the liver reference was just a joke referring to the organ responsible for getting rid of the preservatives, not the salt. Apparently I think Im funnier than I actually am.  Which is ok, because I think Im really funny.
Yes, youre right in saying that the salt secreting glands are in the nostrils.
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04-05-13, 04:02 PM
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Re: The mangrove eating shrimp
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I doubt very much "Chomper" died because the shrimp he ate wasn`t organic (I don`t think Wayne`s inferring that at all)!? . |
No he never inferred that at all.
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04-05-13, 05:30 PM
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Re: The mangrove eating shrimp
Another updated video, he basically hates me. I've never actually touched him, including when he arrived. I untied the bag and let him find his way out.
Shy monitor - YouTube
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04-05-13, 05:48 PM
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Re: The mangrove eating shrimp
Rather than infer anything at all. Here is how I came up with such a valid concern.
I am extremely active among the Thamnophis communities, and if you know about the species, they are fish eaters.
It was common practice among many of us to buy fish fillets and cut them into strips.
People would lose snakes, and we would all wonder why, I lost a bunch of very expensive Infernalis within hours of eating Wal Mart fish. So I read the label for the first time.
Gotta love the information superhighway, a little digging around and there it was, Veterinarians actually tell people NOT to feed certain dog and cat foods to your pets, because this same ingredient. It's a commercial water softening agent that makes sea food look appealing in the store.
The material data safety sheet lists it as a poison with side effects, now compound the fact that snakes and lizards have tiny little livers and kidneys, it would take proportionately far smaller amounts of this toxin to put your animal into a health risk.
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04-05-13, 06:02 PM
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Re: The mangrove eating shrimp
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Originally Posted by smy_749
Another updated video, he basically hates me. I've never actually touched him, including when he arrived. I untied the bag and let him find his way out.
Shy monitor - YouTube |
Very pretty, I love the patterning.. Has there been a verdict on whether or not it's a juxtindicus?
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04-05-13, 06:08 PM
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Re: The mangrove eating shrimp
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Another updated video, he basically hates me. I've never actually touched him, including when he arrived. I untied the bag and let him find his way out.
Shy monitor - YouTube |
He is pretty, how big do they get?
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