Mites - Page 3

CMRetics · 12-14-12, 12:48 AM

Nix, Pam, Rid, any store brand variant of the above are all the exact same stuff dilute it properly and it will work fine. I've started using it on all new snakes/enclosures regularly "just in case". I buy the walgreens brand stuff that costs about $14 and will make around a gallon and a half per package, that gallon and a half will last me a long time.

KORBIN5895 · 12-14-12, 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Corey209

Diluting the permethrin is the same exact thing as using nix or pam.

So what's the original percentage of permethrin you are getting?

Ridge Runner_20 · 12-14-12, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by KORBIN5895

So what's the original percentage of permethrin you are getting?

That's the key right there! It's all about the concentration you're using. PAM and the lice bedding sprays in aerosol form (Nix, RID, Equate, etc.) ALL contain permethrin at 0.5%, and although it may not sound like much, it IS! It is also very difficult to effectively dilute anything in aerosol form, so IF you plan on using this type of product, FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS CAREFULLY, and DO NOT apply directly on ANY animal.

Now, should you choose the mix-it-yourself version of any of the above lice treatments (dilute-and-shoot, if you will), the final concentration will depend entirely on your product-to-water mix ratio. So, the real key to a "safe" mixture is knowing the percentage of active ingredient (also permethrin) to begin with, and where you need to be with your final concentration. The right concentration is likely to be perfectly safe, but getting the math wrong could spell disaster.

And you thought high school algebra would never come in handy!

RR_20 (Mike)

Corey209 · 12-14-12, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by KORBIN5895

So what's the original percentage of permethrin you are getting?

10% and the reptile place I go to diluted it for me in a chemically resistant spray bottle.

CMRetics · 12-15-12, 12:09 AM

I use nix mixed with water, spray right on the animal. Never had problems with this method.

Corey209 · 12-15-12, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by CMRetics

I use nix mixed with water, spray right on the animal. Never had problems with this method.

I sprayed my king as well, no problems and from research a whole lot of people do it too. So I don't know what everyone is talking about.

Terranaut · 12-15-12, 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Corey209

10% and the reptile place I go to diluted it for me in a chemically resistant spray bottle.

After I read this all I could think of was...
Apparently your stuff isn't working if you have needed more.
10% of how many? I don't even know of 10 stores that sell PAM. You must live at a pet store only mall.
If they mix it for you do you actually know what your talking about?
How often have you needed to treat for mites? This is rediculous to say the least.

Corey209 · 12-15-12, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Terranaut

After I read this all I could think of was...
Apparently your stuff isn't working if you have needed more.
10% of how many? I don't even know of 10 stores that sell PAM. You must live at a pet store only mall.
If they mix it for you do you actually know what your talking about?
How often have you needed to treat for mites? This is rediculous to say the least.

The original permethrin was 10%, they diluted it down with just a capful in the entire spray bottle. I also go to one single reptile shop, which does happen to have reptile relief and pam but I did not buy pam.. I had permethrin diluted for me. I've only had the mites once and that's the only time I'll ever need to have it as I now treat anything I get with permethrin.

KORBIN5895 · 12-15-12, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Corey209

The original permethrin was 10%, they diluted it down with just a capful in the entire spray bottle. I also go to one single reptile shop, which does happen to have reptile relief and pam but I did not buy pam.. I had permethrin diluted for me. I've only had the mites once and that's the only time I'll ever need to have it as I now treat anything I get with permethrin.

That's way too strong. Nix is only .3-.5 % permethrin and it is diluted into a whole gallon of water. You are talking about diluting 10% into a 24 oz bottle. Do the math and you will find you have great potential to damage your snake.

Corey209 · 12-15-12, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by KORBIN5895

That's way too strong. Nix is only .3-.5 % permethrin and it is diluted into a whole gallon of water. You are talking about diluting 10% into a 24 oz bottle. Do the math and you will find you have great potential to damage your snake.

I think nix and pam are .5% but the guy who diluted it for me uses it all the time without any problems.

KORBIN5895 · 12-15-12, 09:28 AM

So you do know people have killed their snake by putting straight nix on them right? Do you realize that this 10% permethrin mixed with 24oz of water is way stronger?