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Old 08-18-12, 09:12 PM   #31
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Isn't it clear that you are starving your snake? I feel bad for him, he's so hungry he tried to eat a fly.

Now to the op, IMO dum's are much less thrilling to own then a bci.

It certainly couldn't have been because the fly was pissing him off could it? I need to take a picture of his starvin' *** so the world can see.
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That is an opine belief to say they are much more thrilling to own.
Maybe you should handle your dum a little more[has an arrogant smile].
Yes IMO dum's are borring.

Don't ruin another thread with an endless debate my female dum that I disturb just as much as my male tolerates me.
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Old 08-18-12, 09:35 PM   #33
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It certainly couldn't have been because the fly was pissing him off could it? I need to take a picture of his starvin' *** so the world can see.
A fly cannot puss off a snake, they lack the brain capacity to be pissed.

I also wouldn't post a pic, I wouldn't want to see you get slammed for owning a malnourished snake.
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Fine, rant ended. Nice touch with the brain capacity there.

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A fly cannot puss off a snake, they lack the brain capacity to be pissed.

I also wouldn't post a pic, I wouldn't want to see you get slammed for owning a malnourished snake.
I am totally doin' it!

Striking at that fly had nothing to do with brain capacity it was purely instinct
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I am totally doin' it!

Striking at that fly had nothing to do with brain capacity it was purely instinct
Correct.....
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Old 08-18-12, 09:42 PM   #37
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Well, it depends what his intentions were.
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Well, it depends what his intentions were.

He probably couldn't remember asking the fly to GTFO...
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Wow, heated debate about Dums and BCIs? ^_^ Great, now I don't know which to choose. How big do BCIs get? I heard a snake over 8 ft can kill you. O_O I'm 4'11 and stopped growing.
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A snake smaller than that can kill you, but as long as you use common sense, you should be fine. There are different BCI localities and size would vary between them, but I don't think any of them would exceed six or seven feet too often, though.
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Wow, heated debate about Dums and BCIs? ^_^ Great, now I don't know which to choose. How big do BCIs get? I heard a snake over 8 ft can kill you. O_O I'm 4'11 and stopped growing.
Dum's can get just as big as BCI's
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Me either... I suggested a corn snake

In all honesty though I'm wondering why the OP chose Dumeril's over any BCI. Jay you and I both know BCI is a great starter snake and in my honest experience I would recommend them over a Dumeril's to anyone who started out skittish. I only have two reasons which are soley my own though and not supported by scientific evidence or popular opinion.



My reasons a BCI is better to begin with than a Dum are as follows:

1. In my experience, you are more likely to get tagged by a Dum

While a BCI is very docile by nature, so are Dums. I see no difference in their temperament and the first 5 snakes Ive ever had were Dums.

2. They are a more intimidating looking snake as far as facial features go. If a new keeper hasn't yet learned how to read the body language of a snake then this might confuse them.

I also have not found their facial features to be intimidating either, even back in the early days of keeping snakes.

As I said those are MY only reasons for not recommending a Dum to start with. I do highly recommend Dum's in general, just not for skittish beginners.

I hate to disagree with you on this Wildside because from what Ive seen in your previous posts, I like you and I like what what you had to say there but in this case, I dont think Splashsorm's going to have a problem with Dums especially if said Dum is acquired as a baby.
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Dum's can get just as big as BCI's
Although they can it is unlikely and even if said size is reached it will take a while longer to get to that size as dums have a slower metabolism.
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Male Central American average size for a male is 5-7.

This is an opinion based argument. You could end up with a timmed or agressive snake no matter what the species.
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I agree with your last statement.

Although central american bci get five to seven there is always a chance of getting a nine foot monster.

But male dums also get to 5 to 7 feet. A nine footer is like unheard of in the dum world even a for a female.
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