Great Animal Escapes- get on TV!! - Page 3

Lankyrob · 11-28-11, 07:59 AM

Jules,

The biggest problem with showing reptile escapes is that there are already many many people trying to get our hobby banned, if we then publicise that it is "easy" for them to escape it just gives more ammunition to those wanting the ban.

Also, kudos to you to come back and answer the queries and concerns raised

ZARADOZIA · 11-28-11, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Lankyrob

Jules,

The biggest problem with showing reptile escapes is that there are already many many people trying to get our hobby banned, if we then publicise that it is "easy" for them to escape it just gives more ammunition to those wanting the ban.

Also, kudos to you to come back and answer the queries and concerns raised

I second this.

**millertime89** · 11-28-11, 02:02 PM

perhaps you can give us a clip of the show to show us exactly what kind of show yours is? I hope you can understand our fears as reptile and largely snake keepers. Our hobby is already threatened due to bad press and poor keepers whose bad habits result in escapes and deaths. Especially those such as myself who keep (or in my case aspire to keep) the large ones. Can you imagine the backlash if someone submitted footage of a 15 footer getting out and cruising around the house?

Great Animal Es · 11-29-11, 04:10 AM

sorry everyone, can't offer a clip before it's transmitted and, besides, what we've got so far is being edited at the moment.

don't worry if you can't help or are anxious so would rather not

infernalis · 11-29-11, 04:53 AM

I have to say, as the leader of this fine group, The fact that protecting our hobby from possible bad press completely overrides the chance to jump at 5 minutes of fame is impressive to no end.

I am proud to be part of this.

Most other people would jump at the chance to have footage aired without any regard for any ramifications arising from it later on.

KORBIN5895 · 11-29-11, 06:21 AM

Being edited????? Hmmm. Back to my last Idea me thinks.
@Kyle
Just YouTube that dogs chasing deer clip rob told us about.

Great Animal Es · 11-29-11, 07:07 AM

the dog, fenton, chasing the deer in richmond park is not actually in the show, but was an example of 'true' footage. the point of this clip is firstly (you're right) that it's humorous but, more importantly, it offers us the opportunity to explain what behavioural traits of wild deer and a domesticated dog are being displayed. the humour is a good hook to get the viewers attention, but there are some very interesting facts that the majority of viewers may not have previously known about.

like i said, if this is not for you i understand - please accept my apology for troubling you all and kicking the hornets' nest, i hadn't realised it would cause any issues.

Lankyrob · 11-29-11, 07:21 AM

With most animal groups you get people that care for them and people that dont but wouldnt interfere with others owning them. Unfortunately with our hobby we have those of us who worship reptilia and would do almost anything to protect the right to keep them and those that despise reptilia and would do almost anything to ensure that NOBODY has the right to keep them.

Responsible reptile owners for this reason alone will generally not allow anything that could be perceived as negative to be shown on a TV program - the flipside to this is that most reptile keepers that ARE shown on tv tend to be a little ............ eccentric.

"The Essex Jungle" is a perfect example of this, whilst i watched it religiously cos i love any opportunity to see reptiles all bar maybe one of the owners was projected to be a nut job and the animals were not shown in their best light either, more was made of the risks than of the positives of keeping them.

KORBIN5895 · 11-29-11, 07:59 AM

I am sorry but I see absolutely no humor in watching dogs chase deer. That is about the same as a dog or rooster fight to me. Where I am from we shoot dogs that chase deer. Even if its the neighbor's. If a dog chases a deer why won't it chase horses or cattle? That is how we feel about it in my neck of the woods.

Great Animal Es · 11-29-11, 08:19 AM

like i said korbin, the dog clip is NOT in the show. it was merely an example as it's gone viral very quickly so a lot of people would understand what we meant. it is not even close to being like a dog or rooster fight to me, and where i'm from we do not shoot dogs that chase deer. surely an opinion like that is no different to those who challenge reptile enthusiasts for a couple of unfortunate incidents or mistakes by people who are less attentive to their hobby than you are?!

KORBIN5895 · 11-29-11, 08:38 AM

So you are doing this for the animal planet? I think we have a thread about them.

Jay · 11-29-11, 10:52 AM

Korbin we come from the same neck of the woods. When I was living with my uncle when I was young the dog got out and was shot and killed by the farmer for chasing the chickens. The farmer had the heart to bring him to my uncles door wrapped up. "your dog was loose on my property AGAIN" as a child I was mortified, my uncle was the one apologizing, I was confused he loved his dog shep. Later now I understand completely.

The sad thing is how in today's society, the farmer probably would have got in trouble, for simply defending his lively hood. My grandfather keeps birds as a Hobby an I don't think it would be appropriate to discus what he does with stray cats on his property.

infernalis · 11-29-11, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Great Animal Es

like i said, if this is not for you i understand - please accept my apology for troubling you all and kicking the hornets' nest, i hadn't realised it would cause any issues.

Please do not apologize, this has been a very passionate discussion, and if nothing else, it shed light on just how serious us reptile keepers are about our captive specimens.

On to your original topic, Most of us (including me) do not film escapes, the last thing on anyones mind when their prized reptile gets out is "I wish I filmed this"

All we ever want is to safely return our animal back to it's cage.

I for one always welcome hearing from the media, it shows that our forum is being noticed by the world.

Jay · 11-29-11, 11:53 AM

To the op, there was a video floating around on here from YouTube, I can't find the link. It was a green tree python who escaped and was later found in a bird cage, who had consumed a finch. I had a chucke and as long as you don't twist things it's acceptable. I may have worded my statement wrong it was not intended to you, just my view on relative media.

KORBIN5895 · 11-29-11, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by infernalis

Please do not apologize, this has been a very passionate discussion, and if nothing else, it shed light on just how serious us reptile keepers are about our captive specimens.

On to your original topic, Most of us (including me) do not film escapes, the last thing on anyones mind when their prized reptile gets out is "I wish I filmed this"

All we ever want is to safely return our animal back to it's cage.

I for one always welcome hearing from the media, it shows that our forum is being noticed by the world.

Was this directed at me?

The tree python video was in another passionate thread about feeding a BP by Jaleely.