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11-26-11, 06:02 PM
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Re: Weird red dot
If I am to upsize the cage to a 24x24x24, will the stress be to larger for a juvenile?
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11-26-11, 06:17 PM
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Re: Weird red dot
I would give it some more time before upsizing unless you see pushing.
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11-26-11, 06:33 PM
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Re: Weird red dot
We kept ours in a 12 inch high x 6inch deep x 6inch wide until it was mature (past colour change).
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11-26-11, 06:41 PM
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Re: Weird red dot
My baby went right into a 24 deep x 30 wide x 18 high right off. You need to make sure you have spot on husbandry and plenty of hiding spots for them to feel secure and be able to regulate there temp through. If you have any issues with husbandry I wouldn't be going up to a larger size viv.
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11-27-11, 12:08 AM
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slainte mhath
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Re: Weird red dot
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Originally Posted by rastamac
thank you so much for the opinions.
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you may already have it,but if you don't.....
The More Complete Chondro,by Greg Maxwell,is the book to buy.
it's the bible for green tree pythons
cheers shaun
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11-27-11, 07:28 AM
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Re: Weird red dot
^^^^ Couldnt agree more!!!
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11-27-11, 08:24 AM
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Re: Weird red dot
^^^ I should buy it
my juvenile who was a May hatch went right into her 24x24x36 screen top and s/he is thriving. Then again I have natural plants in there so she can has cover and a misting system she drinks water everyday off her leaves or off of her coils
when I brought her home and had the viv set up I put her tote in the viv and left the top open and we left it alone the next morning she was up on her high perches hunting for food
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12-05-11, 11:18 PM
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Re: Weird red dot
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Originally Posted by rastamac
I am using a blue nightglow bulb that gives off slight heat. my room is relatively warm so keeping a temp of 80 is no prob. at night, i drop to 74 and day i raise to 84. i have a reptifogger hooked up atm. She is in a 12x12x18 exoterra with screen top. And i have noticed quite a lot of head rub. I appreciate the info and i will be in contact with the vet. could a jagged prong of the screen mesh potentially be the problem? or a stiff twig? as well, if she is eating and exercising properly should i be overly concerned? born march 29 and i just took a weight of 21.5g. before thursday night feeding.
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Here's my advice:
For a GTP born March 29, 2011, currently weighing 21.5g, your snake is very under weight! A new born GTP should weigh around 10g, and one that's 8 months old should weigh around 75g.
You need to change your feeding schedule. First, the proper sized meal should be the same diameter (hair of prey not included) as the largest part of your snake. Second, every time your snake defecates, you should feed it again. Third, if you want to handle your snake, do so between its defecation / feeding cycle. Fourth, if your snake doesn't defecate within two weeks of a meal, then something (temperature/humidity/lack of exercise) is wrong.
Lastly, take your snake to a vet and have a fecal done. This will cost you around $40 to $80, but if parasites are causing your snakes weight to be low, this could save its life.
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12-06-11, 04:43 AM
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Re: Weird red dot
GTP's have a slow metabolism - if i fed mine each time it poops it would only eat about 4 times a year!! The prey I feed is 2-3times the size of the snake. (i have never weighed any of my snakes so cant judge wheter weight is ok)
Looking at the pics you posted the snake looks a healthy size tho!
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12-06-11, 07:32 AM
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slainte mhath
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Re: Weird red dot
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Originally Posted by Lankyrob
GTP's have a slow metabolism - if i fed mine each time it poops it would only eat about 4 times a year!! The prey I feed is 2-3times the size of the snake. (i have never weighed any of my snakes so cant judge wheter weight is ok)
Looking at the pics you posted the snake looks a healthy size tho! 
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have to agree with rob on the pooping thing
its only morelia i keep and in my personal experience they poop randomly not on a weekly or fortnightly basis
imo the only time you should worry about a snake pooping,is if there is swelling due to constipation (which i have never encountered with my morelia)
cheers shaun
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12-06-11, 07:46 AM
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Re: Weird red dot
^^ thats funny mine poops fairly often maybe once every couple meals tonight she is going to have her first hopper meal, I was feeding her a fuzzie every 5-7 days so now that I will be feeding her a hopper I will guage to see how long it takes her to actively hunt (usually it takes 3 nights) once she actively hunts for 1-2 nights I feed her the next night
it may not be the perfect system but she's been growing
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12-06-11, 07:52 AM
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slainte mhath
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Re: Weird red dot
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Originally Posted by lady_bug87
^^ thats funny mine poops fairly often maybe once every couple meals tonight she is going to have her first hopper meal, I was feeding her a fuzzie every 5-7 days so now that I will be feeding her a hopper I will guage to see how long it takes her to actively hunt (usually it takes 3 nights) once she actively hunts for 1-2 nights I feed her the next night
it may not be the perfect system but she's been growing
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imo your system is fine mate
i feed all my hatchlings up to sub adulthood every 7 days
i've found hatchling carpets will poop a lot more than older carpets
especially on rat pups (its usually runny poo as well)
cheers shaun
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12-06-11, 07:55 AM
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Re: Weird red dot
shes on mice (obviously) and she exercises mid morning so I attribute the poop to the fact that she is active especially just after her lights go out
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12-06-11, 07:57 AM
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slainte mhath
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Re: Weird red dot
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Originally Posted by lady_bug87
shes on mice (obviously) and she exercises mid morning so I attribute the poop to the fact that she is active especially just after her lights go out
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you are talking about your gtp ?
the mice " obviously " threw me ?
i only offer rats to my morelia hatchlings,the older they get the harder it can be to cross them over from mice to rats
it takes a lot of mice to feed an adult,where as 1 medium or 1 large rat does the job in one go
any older carpets i buy,i get onto rats straight away as well
cheers shaun
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12-06-11, 08:03 AM
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Re: Weird red dot
Its true, I know but I always thought she was too small for rat pinkies after her go with hoppers I will be switching her over. besides its easier for me to feed her rats since everything else (snake wise) eats rats
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