Super Bummed :( - Page 3

Lankyrob · 06-23-11, 05:33 AM

I worked for yeats in Human Resources and was responsible for drug testing of many employees and also firing plenty of them as well.

Irrespective of whether you smoke on the job or dirnk on the job or speed in your company vehicle you are breaking the law by what you are doing and this reflects on the company and their Corporate Social Responsibilities.

Think of it this way - you work in a "safe" environment where being under the influence endangers noone so they let you off. Next week a fork lift driver kills someone whilst under the influence and they then have major issues as they have already let off someone working whilst having drugs intheir bloodstream. This is why majority of companies have a zero tolerance policy - they have to treat ALL workers by the same rules.

End of the day we all take calculated risks in life - sometimes we get away with it sometimes we dont, but when you tkae that risk knowing what the consequences are should you be caught out you just have to man up and accept those consequences.

brylecc1989 · 06-23-11, 06:27 AM

I agree Rob. I knew the risk i was taking. And will handle what comes. Just will be hard for a while.

Lankyrob · 06-23-11, 11:36 AM

I would happily smoke a little pot to ease the daily pain that i have but until it is legal it just isnt worth the risk.

Will0W783 · 06-23-11, 12:27 PM

I'm so sorry for your troubles, Brylecc1989. Will you be able to collect unemployment at least?

brylecc1989 · 06-23-11, 01:05 PM

Thanks willow. No, that is my issue. If i could collect, id only take a 50 dollar a week pay cut. However, in lovely freakin new york, getting fired for this reason bars you from unemployment eligibility. My only chance is to plead with my company to file it unders omething else so i can collect. So fat though i have worked today and yesterday and they have not brought it up. Im not sure how long it takes the test to come back tho. MAN! waiting is like, the hardest part.

Lankyrob · 06-23-11, 01:09 PM

We have similar rules over here - shoudl you leave employment for your own fault (resignation or dismissal) then you can claim no benefits for 26 weeks. It stops people who have run out of unemployment payments (they only pay for 2 years) taking a job for a day and then leaving to restart their payments again.

Dehlida · 06-23-11, 01:19 PM

While I don't believe it was right for them to fire you- nor do I believe the laws are legit right now or make any sense at all. I don't believe you should file unemployment unless you had a serious medical condition stating you had a reason to need the THC.

You where doing something for PLEASURE on your own time, you knew the risks. Your health was not in danger because of not ingesting THC. It is in the end YOUR fault for what happened. Suck it up, get another job, and realize if you want to engage in such things- it comes with potential consequences. Don't take my tax dollars because you wanted to have some fun and lost your job over it, that isn't fair to those who actually deserve unemployment.

brylecc1989 · 06-23-11, 01:36 PM

And what about the literally thousands of dollars in taxes ive paid since i worked here? And also, are you implying that since i smoke pot, i don't deserve to be helped when i am in need? Help to pay my bills, eat, pay rent. I dont deserve that? No that is just purely ignorant. I pay taxes like everyone else, regardless if i smoke or not. And i deserve the same benefits as others, regardless of my personal choices.

KrazyKat · 06-23-11, 03:57 PM

brylecc1989, I am very sorry for your situation

And I really don't get why the U.S. government is so hard on the matter - I agree with Shaun, alcohol adiction is MUCH more debilitating, not to mention extreemely dangerous if under the influence while trying to do almost ANYTHING work related, not to mention how 'unpleasant' it can be to be to be around some of them. A "pot head" I could see being a problem, but even then, they should measure for the amount of THC, not just presence in any amount considering it stays in the system so long. IMO, it just doesn't make sense.

Dehlida · 06-23-11, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by brylecc1989

And what about the literally thousands of dollars in taxes ive paid since i worked here? And also, are you implying that since i smoke pot, i don't deserve to be helped when i am in need? Help to pay my bills, eat, pay rent. I dont deserve that? No that is just purely ignorant. I pay taxes like everyone else, regardless if i smoke or not. And i deserve the same benefits as others, regardless of my personal choices.

You paid them for your roads, your public schools, things of this nature. I'm implying that you KNEW the risk, no one forced you to smoke, you did it as a HOBBY. It didn't have to happen, you made a choice and with that took on the responsibility of your actions.

You don't deserve the same benefits. If you choose to break the law, for pleasure, deliberately - you are forfeiting the right to unemployment. You made your bed and now don't like the fact you have to lie in it. Man up and handle your business.

Nos · 06-23-11, 04:42 PM

Thats BS. Rant all you want, as a ganja users myself i have been a contractor since i was 16 and now I am 22 as well. i work for a private contractor and have perfect attendance for over 14 months now. It motivates me, and for the first 8 months i worked with my boss i kept it a secret because i was afraid he would judge me, once i mentioned it to him he told me at 36 he owns his own company and he uses it just as i do. Im his only employee and he now wants to hire some other employees so i can run my own crew. my friend is a big drinker and wants a job but because of how much he drinks he is very unreliable, yet its not illegal to drink. %100 percent agree with you man, societies messed up. people just need to be educated.
i get into debates on this topic yet everyone will always look back at there past experiences and then judge. I've had so many bad times drinking yet i wont tell anyone its wrong.

whoaxmary · 06-23-11, 05:07 PM

I have three points on this thread so far:

1. I can't believe Wayne's letting this thread stay up?
2. I can't believe so many people on here admit to be regular or occasional smokers - might as well share that I self medicate as well.
3.It's really unfortunate that it seems these days the majority of smokers are serious people, who live full lives and great careers, and are not drug abusers in anyway - yet they get same in the same category as abusers.

Lankyrob · 06-23-11, 05:16 PM

Why would wayne stop it? Noone has been abusive, just a fair exchange of views.

whoaxmary · 06-23-11, 05:25 PM

Just thought talk like this would be a nono cuz of our young readers - thought it was in the rules with along with no politics and such - but after reviewing I see it's not.
But this is coming from the girl that thought if people on here knew I toked I'd be looked down upon. :P

Dehlida · 06-23-11, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Nos

Thats BS. Rant all you want, as a ganja users myself i have been a contractor since i was 16 and now I am 22 as well. i work for a private contractor and have perfect attendance for over 14 months now. It motivates me, and for the first 8 months i worked with my boss i kept it a secret because i was afraid he would judge me, once i mentioned it to him he told me at 36 he owns his own company and he uses it just as i do. Im his only employee and he now wants to hire some other employees so i can run my own crew. my friend is a big drinker and wants a job but because of how much he drinks he is very unreliable, yet its not illegal to drink. %100 percent agree with you man, societies messed up. people just need to be educated.
i get into debates on this topic yet everyone will always look back at there past experiences and then judge. I've had so many bad times drinking yet i wont tell anyone its wrong.

Your job depended on it- and you where careful until you found out you weren't in danger of losing your job over it. You KNEW it was illegal and could potentially get you fired.

I don't get it. You know its illegal, can get you fired, and come with all sorts of consequences. You KNOW what you are doing is socially unacceptable and could get you in trouble. This is the risk you are taking. It's like going to grab a piece of cake, knowing it was baked with nails. You take a bite and get mad at the baker when your mouth is bleeding. He responds "You knew it had nails, you risked it, and you got stabbed" this is part of life.

If you can't deal with the consequences - DON'T SMOKE. Period. I had to do the same thing when I was looking for work. I had to quit smoking alltogether so I could pass drug tests and provide for myself. I'm still alive, I'm not missing out, I made the choice and I didn't get fired over it. Stop asking for free handouts and the world to conform.