Inhumane Rat Killing--I'm Upset

[Amadeus]

Originally Posted by KORBIN5895

This info is very erroneous. We have w thread on here explaining why co² is humane at all. I even have an experiment you can try if you don't believe me.



Wow, you're an idiot man. If you would actually look into a balanced diet you would see that your statement is dead wrong.

On topic;

Drowning is inhumane because most animals are hard wire to struggle in water. The truth of the matter is that once you inhale water it fills your lings and you don't get that burning sensation you get when your holding your breath. I know this because I got caught in an under current when I was a child and inhaled water before I got dragged out.

So I'm an idiot because you have superiority complex? I see. =]

could you go into greater detail? I'd love some more info on this. (your first semi-paragraph)


Agreed on the second though...

[KORBIN5895]

Originally Posted by Amadeus

So I'm an idiot because you have superiority complex? I see. =]

could you go into greater detail? I'd love some more info on this. (your first semi-paragraph)


Agreed on the second though...

http://www.ssnakess.com/forums/food-...uthanasia.html

Read through this one.

[Little Wise Owl]

Originally Posted by smy_749

But anyways, rats and mice are pests and ruin native populations of wildlife in every country they end up in. They cause nasty diseases and there are plenty to go around, so if someone wants to drown his mice, I don't give a sh$$.

They're pests so it's okay to be cruel to them.

Fabulous.

[smy_749]

Originally Posted by Little Wise Owl

They're pests so it's okay to be cruel to them.

Fabulous.

YUPPP.

You act like I sit here with live rats in my oven as we speak or something.....

Nature is cruel unfortunately, if you don't like it don't keep any animals. Drowning is a lot more humane than the way your reptiles kill in the wild anyways. I buy frozen, and I don't get any pleasure out of killing rats I assure you, but I don't shed tears over the ugly things neither.

[Amadeus]

Originally Posted by Little Wise Owl

They're pests so it's okay to be cruel to them.

Fabulous.

They are filthy creatures that bit and spread terrible diseases, they smell.

I have mice in the winter in my house and I use the glue traps so they suffer. =]

[sweatshirt]

Humans are filthy, disgusting creatures that spread diseases as well. We'd smell too if we didn't shower and wear deodorant.

Does that mean it's OK for us to be treated cruelly, tortured?

I'm not humanizing rats and mice, but don't tell me they don't suffer. They panic, but for a different reason than we do.

I accepted when I got a pet that needs frozen rats, that it's natural and healthy. I have nothing against feeding animals meat, obviously, but we should treat that meat with respect, because it's feeding OUR animals and some of us.

I, along with the next person, would hate to have an infestation of mice. But that doesn't mean I want to see them all burn in a hellfire. They're just doing what they think is natural.

[Amadeus]

Originally Posted by sweatshirt

Humans are filthy, disgusting creatures that spread diseases as well. We'd smell too if we didn't shower and wear deodorant.

Does that mean it's OK for us to be treated cruelly, tortured?

I'm not humanizing rats and mice, but don't tell me they don't suffer. They panic, but for a different reason than we do.

I accepted when I got a pet that needs frozen rats, that it's natural and healthy. I have nothing against feeding animals meat, obviously, but we should treat that meat with respect, because it's feeding OUR animals and some of us.

I, along with the next person, would hate to have an infestation of mice. But that doesn't mean I want to see them all burn in a hellfire. They're just doing what they think is natural.

We have different views I would love to see them burn in a hellfire.

Are you denying that humans are superior to rodents?

[smy_749]

Originally Posted by sweatshirt

Humans are filthy, disgusting creatures that spread diseases as well. We'd smell too if we didn't shower and wear deodorant.

Does that mean it's OK for us to be treated cruelly, tortured?

I'm not humanizing rats and mice, but don't tell me they don't suffer. They panic, but for a different reason than we do.

I accepted when I got a pet that needs frozen rats, that it's natural and healthy. I have nothing against feeding animals meat, obviously, but we should treat that meat with respect, because it's feeding OUR animals and some of us.

I, along with the next person, would hate to have an infestation of mice. But that doesn't mean I want to see them all burn in a hellfire. They're just doing what they think is natural.

If they have the ability and choose not to, then I treat them cruelly in most cases or just avoid them. Its disgusting.

[Akuma223]

As someone with pet rats, who knows the extent of their intelligence, this is just wrong on so many levels. Some people think snakes are pests, does that mean its acceptable to drown them or burn them alive? Absolutely fricking not. I HATE anything parasitic. I have a phobia of them, this doesn't mean I get my jollies off of making them suffer. No creature should have to suffer needlessly if theres a better way of doing things. Nature isn't pretty, we know that, but that doesn't mean we have to be cruel and careless.

[Amadeus]

Originally Posted by Akuma223

As someone with pet rats, who knows the extent of their intelligence, this is just wrong on so many levels. Some people think snakes are pests, does that mean its acceptable to drown them or burn them alive? Absolutely fricking not. I HATE anything parasitic. I have a phobia of them, this doesn't mean I get my jollies off of making them suffer. No creature should have to suffer needlessly if theres a better way of doing things. Nature isn't pretty, we know that, but that doesn't mean we have to be cruel and careless.

El of el...

I smell elitist.

[Akuma223]

Originally Posted by Amadeus

El of el...

I smell elitist.

Care to elaborate?

[Amadeus]

Originally Posted by Akuma223

Care to elaborate?

On what? My opinions or your bullsh**?

[bcr229]

Originally Posted by Akuma223

As someone with pet rats, who knows the extent of their intelligence, this is just wrong on so many levels. Some people think snakes are pests, does that mean its acceptable to drown them or burn them alive? Absolutely fricking not. I HATE anything parasitic. I have a phobia of them, this doesn't mean I get my jollies off of making them suffer. No creature should have to suffer needlessly if theres a better way of doing things. Nature isn't pretty, we know that, but that doesn't mean we have to be cruel and careless.

I wouldn't be mean or cruel to any animal, including a rat, but the local privately-owned pet shop sells us the aggressive, nasty ones that don't play well with others. We've gotten rats that have attacked and killed others within a few minutes. The snakes make sure they don't suffer... for long, anyway...

As for how suppliers euthanize rodents, I suspect many more drown them than most of us know.

[Akuma223]

Originally Posted by Amadeus

On what? My opinions or your bullsh**?

My point is that NO animal or creature, NOT just rats should be treated like this. I'm not being elitist with my opinion that NOTHING should be treated that way. I am not a moron that thinks rats are so much better than any other animal. I don't care if its a cat, cow, snake, rat, or spider. They deserve some level of respect.

[sweatshirt]

Originally Posted by Akuma223

My point is that NO animal or creature, NOT just rats should be treated like this. I'm not being elitist with my opinion that NOTHING should be treated that way. I am not a moron that thinks rats are so much better than any other animal. I don't care if its a cat, cow, snake, rat, or spider. They deserve some level of respect.

I feel the same way. It doesn't matter if you "hate" something. It's a living thing, no different than us, so respect it.