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Also, Corey, I don't think he ever claimed to be "the best monitor and iguana keeper ever", I think he mentioned his iguana holding the world record for eggs laid, which was at about 55 or so eggs.
They froze to death. Monitors are lizards of habit, whether he had food is irrelevant, they already associated the call with feeding. If they don't get fed once or twice, they won't erase the habit. What would happen if he called him persistently and never fed him. Thats the real question.
Another thing is to watch how slow and sluggish they are, that is anything but the normal. If you don't believe me just watch infernalis's videos and see how much thinner and energetic they are. Also his blackthroat barely moves in ALL of his videos. If he does, its in slow motion.
I couldn't agree with you more.....
When I try and tell people that a healthy monitor should not be keen on laying on a person while watching TV, I get flak for it.
My little beasties run all over exploring everything, yes sometimes the pace is casual, but the moment I pick one up, the squirming begins.
I think that seems more "normal" for a wild animal.
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When I try and tell people that a healthy monitor should not be keen on laying on a person while watching TV, I get flak for it.
My little beasties run all over exploring everything, yes sometimes the pace is casual, but the moment I pick one up, the squirming begins.
I think that seems more "normal" for a wild animal.
Oh well, people won't understand that, and the ones with the skittish monitors are the bad keepers. The "tame" ones are much better kept, so we should all keep our monitors,iguanas,dogs and sheep in the same enclosure. Speaking of that, on "another" forum, someone recently posted that hes new and has a water monitor (which the youtube gale dude also had, which also died) and a green iguana in the same cage, and was hoping to cross breed them......
Sadly, Dave seems to be a "celebrity" on youtube and facebook.
Maybe, I should make a video, I will open the cage and say "toyota" 35 times and see if my monitors come out looking for food.
Unfortunately, he does. People worship him..
That would actually be pretty interesting. (And eye opening to the less informed..) Just call them by their names to make it look like they're "trained" and then call them by ridiculous names to show that it's not a response to their names.
I had my male lace monitor trained to come for food at one stage. I'd feed the female in the enclosure first and would then call the male over. I had to delay the reward (the food) by adding steps between him coming to me and finally getting fed. Consequently I'd call him over, put him into the enclosure, go get the food and then feed him. If I didn't do that, he'd just run over biting and there would be blood everywhere. As it turns out, he started to short-cut anyway. He started off knowing he had to be in the enclosure before getting fed (and would usually look up at the enclosure, tongue flicking, waiting to be lifted up, or even trying to climb up the outside of the enclosure), but eventually he knew the routine well enough that he started getting food on his mind before I picked him up, so I had to pick him up very carefully to avoid getting bitten. Then I gave the whole idea up, as it was too dangerous.
Although he definitely knew he was being called for food (I'd clap my hands at the same time as calling him), it was more the tone of my voice than what I was saying and I could probably have said anything.
You can see this at 0:17 in this video:
Wayne, can you please fix this. The youtube link NEVER works for me.
I had my male lace monitor trained to come for food at one stage. I'd feed the female in the enclosure first and would then call the male over. I had to delay the reward (the food) by adding steps between him coming to me and finally getting fed. Consequently I'd call him over, put him into the enclosure, go get the food and then feed him. If I didn't do that, he'd just run over biting and there would be blood everywhere. As it turns out, he started to short-cut anyway. He started off knowing he had to be in the enclosure before getting fed (and would usually look up at the enclosure, tongue flicking, waiting to be lifted up, or even trying to climb up the outside of the enclosure), but eventually he knew the routine well enough that he started getting food on his mind before I picked him up, so I had to pick him up very carefully to avoid getting bitten. Then I gave the whole idea up, as it was too dangerous.
Although he definitely knew he was being called for food (I'd clap my hands at the same time as calling him), it was more the tone of my voice than what I was saying and I could probably have said anything.
You can see this at 0:17 in this video:
Wayne, can you please fix this. The youtube link NEVER works for me.
don't enter the web url just enter the 7NIOeF2ICmo
Oh well, people won't understand that, and the ones with the skittish monitors are the bad keepers. The "tame" ones are much better kept, so we should all keep our monitors,iguanas,dogs and sheep in the same enclosure. Speaking of that, on "another" forum, someone recently posted that hes new and has a water monitor (which the youtube gale dude also had, which also died) and a green iguana in the same cage, and was hoping to cross breed them......
I keep getting crap from my family about why I don't touch my monitors. They think I'm a bad owner because I "neglect" them lol. I just enjoy watching them, I'm not looking for a dog.
I had my male lace monitor trained to come for food at one stage. I'd feed the female in the enclosure first and would then call the male over. I had to delay the reward (the food) by adding steps between him coming to me and finally getting fed. Consequently I'd call him over, put him into the enclosure, go get the food and then feed him. If I didn't do that, he'd just run over biting and there would be blood everywhere. As it turns out, he started to short-cut anyway. He started off knowing he had to be in the enclosure before getting fed (and would usually look up at the enclosure, tongue flicking, waiting to be lifted up, or even trying to climb up the outside of the enclosure), but eventually he knew the routine well enough that he started getting food on his mind before I picked him up, so I had to pick him up very carefully to avoid getting bitten. Then I gave the whole idea up, as it was too dangerous.
Although he definitely knew he was being called for food (I'd clap my hands at the same time as calling him), it was more the tone of my voice than what I was saying and I could probably have said anything.
You can see this at 0:17 in this video:
Wayne, can you please fix this. The youtube link NEVER works for me.
You are so fortunate to be able to work with lace monitor, they are such beautiful animals
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