Possible Savannah rescuer with questions. - Page 2

Vegasarah · 01-06-13, 09:13 AM

Thanks so much to everyone for the replies. I've been out of the country for the past week unexpectedly so I was unable to contact anyone from the US. Central America and Mexico, and the cell reception was awful. But I'm back now and I emailed the person with the monitor. They said they are hiding it at a friends house, but I think that it is also a non permanent situation so I will be hopefully getting her tomorrow! I will keep everyone updated on what the status is

Gungirl · 01-06-13, 09:25 AM

Thats good! Post pics of the set up and the new one asap

infernalis · 01-06-13, 09:27 AM

I will certainly be looking forward to seeing how this pans out myself.

Vegasarah · 01-09-13, 08:17 PM

Well, after days of struggle it looks like the 'friend' is going to keep the Sav... I have tried my hardest to insist on proper care, and it sounds like they are hopefully going to give at least the enclosure some thought. But there's nothing more I can do. Really bummed out and beyond frustrated right now. These are children so there is not much I can do or say that will make them change their minds, they want to keep their 'cool lizard dude'.... I've left them with all of my contact info so that if it becomes overwhelming for them I will take the monitor at any time. Hopefully this new kid's parents will also get sick of the lizard and the kid will have to find it a new home in a hurry. Ugh, makes me sick to my stomach to think that the monitor is probably still living a life of suffering and probably won't make it much longer.

dinosaurdammit · 01-09-13, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegasarah

Well, after days of struggle it looks like the 'friend' is going to keep the Sav... I have tried my hardest to insist on proper care, and it sounds like they are hopefully going to give at least the enclosure some thought. But there's nothing more I can do. Really bummed out and beyond frustrated right now. These are children so there is not much I can do or say that will make them change their minds, they want to keep their 'cool lizard dude'.... I've left them with all of my contact info so that if it becomes overwhelming for them I will take the monitor at any time. Hopefully this new kid's parents will also get sick of the lizard and the kid will have to find it a new home in a hurry. Ugh, makes me sick to my stomach to think that the monitor is probably still living a life of suffering and probably won't make it much longer.

i bet you a good 20 dollars that it bites them and they get rid of it

infernalis · 01-09-13, 08:54 PM

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i bet you a good 20 dollars that it bites them and they get rid of it

I'll bet you another good $20 that by the time it's big enough, it will be too lethargic to care.

When I see people in recliners with a monitor laying on their chest "cuddling" while they watch TV, I want to crack them side the head.

dinosaurdammit · 01-09-13, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by infernalis

I'll bet you another good $20 that by the time it's big enough, it will be too lethargic to care.

When I see people in recliners with a monitor laying on their chest "cuddling" while they watch TV, I want to crack them side the head.

pajaaamas will crawl up and sit for a second but then take off again. He comes back on his own, idk why but sometimes he just relaxes on my feet when hes out n about. He doesnt do this much at all but every time he comes to me and chills for a second i feel special. He seems curious about the recliner, more specifically the lever thing. Probably because of our hands constantly leaving different scents

infernalis · 01-09-13, 09:03 PM

dinosaurdammit · 01-09-13, 10:30 PM

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Yeaaaaa no. Pajaaamas is most alert when he climbs on you:

there is no holding him when you are sitting, he just chooses where to sit

he stayed like that for MAYBE 20 seconds before he skee-daddled under the sofa after stealing my right sock. This video was taken about 5 mins before he got back to his home. Lizard gets a cuddle - YouTube he had cooled down so no more rapid monitor. This is when he actually goes back to be let in, he goes to his basking spot and recharges. Its amazing what proper heat will do to a monitor. Its like they are all cool and calm then BAM meth injection in the eye ball or something. He has yet to sit that still for me since that was taken.

Monitors that just allow you to lay around with them either are so used to you and trust you or you dont give it proper heat. Pajaaamas just doesnt care what we are doing, unless you have a broom. Then its run like hell and hiss/whip. I dont even wish that he would chill with me. I accept him for what he is. A prehistoric marvel of evolution.

infernalis · 01-09-13, 11:28 PM

No offence intended, But I see recipe for disaster written all over that video.

But you are a lot more aware of that now.

Littlefoot launched off my arm and left a series of punctures in the wake.

I tend to be more comfortable leaning toward caution when around my lizards.

Quick story.. I took Chomper outside once to show him to people, while I was holding him, a kid started up his dirt bike and popped it into gear, blaaaaat blaaaat vroooom and instantly I had a terrified panic stricken monitor in my arms.

When he clawed his way up the front of me, he clawed the heck out of me, hit the ground running, and flipped out in ways I have never seen, getting him back into the house, back into his enclosure was a pain.

Never again.

Just be aware that talons and tails can do as much as a mouth when used as weapons, and a truck bacfiring in the street could be all it takes to trigger an all out spaz attack.

Picking a full size monitor up off the ground when they are in panic mode can get you hurt.

Vegasarah · 01-10-13, 01:16 AM

Well I learned some good stuff for the future, thank you everyone for your help and advice. Hopefully sooner than later these kids will have to give the monitor to me. I know these parents are going to get sick of it or get tired of feeding it and want to sell it. Just a matter of time...

So in your opinion, when a monitor acts 'tame' like the ones you see on youtube or whatever, what exactly is improper about the care? Is it just a matter of being too cold? Or is it something more serious? I see videos of these grossly overweight lizards dragging their belly on the floor and I know it's just not right. When you compare those with ones in the wild there is a clear difference. I guess what I'm asking is why are these 'tame' ones behaving in this way?

infernalis · 01-10-13, 02:18 AM

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When you compare those with ones in the wild there is a clear difference. I guess what I'm asking is why are these 'tame' ones behaving in this way?

1. Chronic exposure to insufficient temperatures shuts their kidneys down and metabolism slows to a halt.

2. incorrect caging with insufficient humidity compounded with no soil to burrow in promotes dehydration by respiration, again causing organ failure, lethargy, obesity and death.

Corey209 · 01-10-13, 03:25 AM

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Adult Water Monitor

80% of the monitors on craigslist look like this..

Sav in an exo-terra..
Savannah Monitor w/Enclosure

Sav in an arboreal looking glass tank...
male savannah monitor

Monitor in another glass tank.
monitor lizzard needs a new home

DiscoPat · 01-10-13, 11:17 AM

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Sav in an arboreal looking glass tank...
male savannah monitor

That guy paid more for that terrible setup than I payed to build an 8x4x4.

Also he is trying to turn a profit by selling it all for 450. That poor Savannah.

jarich · 01-10-13, 11:34 AM

I thought it was funny that he says he would give a deal to someone who was experienced and that people need to do their homework first. He shouldve practiced what he preached. Anyone with experience would know not to buy that poor lizard as Im sure its just about to die.

That last one Wayne put up is the real heartbreaker in my opinion.