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12-21-12, 05:30 PM
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slainte mhath
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Re: First breeding season - Questions
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Thanks. I figured it would depend on the particular female, but I thought may be an average, or some sort of expected timeframe.
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with Carpet Pythons you get different averages,with different sub species on,copulation to ovulation,ovulation to pre lay shed,pre lay shed to laying,laying to hatching
i just rembered yours will be a litter not a clutch,so i honestly don't know if my info's any use to you mate
cheers shaun
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12-21-12, 05:34 PM
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Re: First breeding season - Questions
Roy, i don't have any experience breeding BRB'S, but with my Kenyans, my female started hugging the heat soon after i witnessed numerous locks between her and one of my males. I would remove the incumbent male if there hasn't been action between him and the female that he has been with for a while, he just may not be in the mood, so to speak...
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12-21-12, 05:40 PM
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slainte mhath
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Re: First breeding season - Questions
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I would remove the incumbent male if there hasn't been action between him and the female that he has been with for a while, he just may not be in the mood, so to speak...
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i put my jungle jag,in with my diamond jungle tonight,for the 2nd time in 14 days.....
its my female thats having none of it,she even poo'd on the poor guy tonight (literally) 
cheers shaun
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12-21-12, 05:43 PM
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Re: First breeding season - Questions
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So, two nights ago I moved the breeding male into the cage with the 1.1 that have been idle for a while, and she has not yet gone into shed. I did this in hopes of creating "competition" and encourage a lock. Well, it worked flawlessly, and the introduced male got right to business.
So, should I remove the incumbent male to another female since he's not busy at the moment, or might that cease the breeding between the other two?
Thanks for reading!
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Leaving two males in an enclosure with one female sounds like a recipe for disaster. But, eh, maybe that's how things are done in the snake world.
~Maggot
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12-21-12, 05:51 PM
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Re: First breeding season - Questions
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Leaving two males in an enclosure with one female sounds like a recipe for disaster. But, eh, maybe that's how things are done in the snake world.
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It's fine. Nothing of danger will come of it. Just gotta keep an eye on things.
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12-21-12, 05:54 PM
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Re: First breeding season - Questions
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It's fine. Nothing of danger will come of it. Just gotta keep an eye on things.
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I thought snakes weren't supposed to be housed together at all?
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12-21-12, 06:00 PM
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queen of the Chicken Dance
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Re: First breeding season - Questions
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I thought snakes weren't supposed to be housed together at all?
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Snakes really need to be housed in the same enclosure for breeding purposes, really no way around that, especially if you witness a confirmed lock. If i do not see any action so to speak, i separate the male from the female, offer food, and wait 4-5 days, and introduce the male again.
If i see at least one confirmed lock, i leave the male in with the female until i see that he's lost interest, and then separate them for good
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12-21-12, 06:05 PM
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Re: First breeding season - Questions
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Originally Posted by KKgal
Snakes really need to be housed in the same enclosure for breeding purposes, really no way around that, especially if you witness a confirmed lock. If i do not see any action so to speak, i separate the male from the female, offer food, and wait 4-5 days, and introduce the male again.
If i see at least one confirmed lock, i leave the male in with the female until i see that he's lost interest, and then separate them for good
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Ah, okay. Thanks.
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12-21-12, 06:07 PM
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Re: First breeding season - Questions
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Ah, okay. Thanks.
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Not a problem, i know when someone doesn't deal with a particular reptile, it can get a little confusing when people tell you it's really not a good thing to house most snake species together, but then because of breeding purposes, we do just that
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12-21-12, 06:19 PM
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Re: First breeding season - Questions
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Not a problem, i know when someone doesn't deal with a particular reptile, it can get a little confusing when people tell you it's really not a good thing to house most snake species together, but then because of breeding purposes, we do just that 
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I'm more familiar with leopard gecko breeding, and it's pretty much a rule to not house them together even when breeding, and especially not put in two males together. Asking for a bloodbath. But maybe snakes are nicer than leos. XD
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12-21-12, 06:22 PM
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Re: First breeding season - Questions
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I'm more familiar with leopard gecko breeding, and it's pretty much a rule to not house them together even when breeding, and especially not put in two males together. Asking for a bloodbath. But maybe snakes are nicer than leos. XD
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I always keep a close eye on my Kenyans when i've bred them, and i've only put one male in with two females, just to ensure a better chance of getting a litter for the season.
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12-21-12, 06:24 PM
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Re: First breeding season - Questions
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I always keep a close eye on my Kenyans when i've bred them, and i've only put one male in with two females, just to ensure a better chance of getting a litter for the season. 
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That seems like it would be a less stressful route for the females.
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12-21-12, 06:27 PM
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Re: First breeding season - Questions
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That seems like it would be a less stressful route for the females.
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To me, i would rather do the 1.2 ration when it comes to breeding, because if you put two males in with one female, you still have a chance with only one litter, while the 1 male with 2 females, there's the chance the little stud will do the deed with both, and you get 2 litters out of it!
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12-21-12, 06:33 PM
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Re: First breeding season - Questions
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To me, i would rather do the 1.2 ration when it comes to breeding, because if you put two males in with one female, you still have a chance with only one litter, while the 1 male with 2 females, there's the chance the little stud will do the deed with both, and you get 2 litters out of it!
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Some people to the two male thing to just get one going. Usually works.
I plan to toss my rough scales into big bins of 2.2 each. Months later. Pray for babies lol.
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12-21-12, 06:40 PM
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Re: First breeding season - Questions
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Some people to the two male thing to just get one going. Usually works.
I plan to toss my rough scales into big bins of 2.2 each. Months later. Pray for babies lol.
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I'll pray for you too, that you get babies from those!
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