I'm interested in your opinion about my bull snake - Page 2

Wama · 11-20-12, 11:18 AM

She isn't odd........ your very lucky

KORBIN5895 · 11-20-12, 12:06 PM

Maybe this snake is the next evolutionary step in reptiles? The op should start teaching it Latin..

herplovr_bri89 · 11-20-12, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Aaron_S

So you come here looking for opinions and thoughts and when they don't side with your own, you just discredit everything that everyone is saying? Might as well leave the forum now as you certainly won't gain anything from us with that closed mind.

In regards to your snake, it's simply acting like a regular, docile snake. Nothing special.

Wama thank you, you seem to be one of the few decent ones jarich you too, so please disregard this message

You people DRIVE new snake owners away!! I've seen it on plenty of other threads, they come looking for help and you blast them if they don't agree with you, you criticize EVERYTHING without saying anything positive, you call them names (if anyone is a troll that honor goes to you phonies a REAL Herp lover and DECENT OWNER would be eager to help) plus you judge without knowing a d**m thing. If you have NEVER MET HER then how can you possibly judge an animal I've raised from an infant. I was simply trying to introduce myself and Leaya who is more than a snake to me, I see her as my own child seeing as i might not ever have any actual children.

Maybe she is so different because i don't use her simply for breeding purposes, or because i wanted something bad a**. She chose ME. I went to that breeder to purchase a Kingsnake but when she came right out of her clutch and wrapped around my arm i knew SHE was the one i should buy.

Leaya has quite literally SAVED MY LIFE, I have 2 aneurysm sitting in my brain and when i went down LEAYA was they only one who brought me back! So excuse me for getting protective and I'm sorry YOU'VE never thought of your herps as anything more than a cold beast that would bite you as soon as look at you. MAYBE if you showed them as much love and protected them as fiercely as I do Leaya they might have shown you a little in return. YOUR LOSS! And if you jerks treat your animals anything like you treat new forum members who don't share YOUR SIMPLE CLOSED MINDED VIEWS then i feel REALLY sorry for them.

It seems you mainly use this forum to bash other owners for not sharing your views, you say snakes don't have emotions. Then why does the female King Cobra in the wild, create an incubated nest, lay eggs, then wrap her body around the nest to both keep the eggs warm and aggressively protects them from any threat. Then when the eggs hatch she leaves to feed so she won't eat her young, then comes back to protect them.
Got three words for you: We don't know. Snakes are one of the creatures that man understands very little about, so unless you actually have a snakes brain in your head none of you know for certain anything that goes on in it.

Gungirl · 11-20-12, 03:50 PM

This actually made me lol...

**Aaron_S** · 11-20-12, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by herplovr_bri89

Wama thank you, you seem to be one of the few decent ones jarich you too, so please disregard this message

You people DRIVE new snake owners away!! I've seen it on plenty of other threads, they come looking for help and you blast them if they don't agree with you, you criticize EVERYTHING without saying anything positive, you call them names (if anyone is a troll that honor goes to you phonies a REAL Herp lover and DECENT OWNER would be eager to help) plus you judge without knowing a d**m thing. If you have NEVER MET HER then how can you possibly judge an animal I've raised from an infant. I was simply trying to introduce myself and Leaya who is more than a snake to me, I see her as my own child seeing as i might not ever have any actual children.

Maybe she is so different because i don't use her simply for breeding purposes, or because i wanted something bad a**. She chose ME. I went to that breeder to purchase a Kingsnake but when she came right out of her clutch and wrapped around my arm i knew SHE was the one i should buy.

Leaya has quite literally SAVED MY LIFE, I have 2 aneurysm sitting in my brain and when i went down LEAYA was they only one who brought me back! So excuse me for getting protective and I'm sorry YOU'VE never thought of your herps as anything more than a cold beast that would bite you as soon as look at you. MAYBE if you showed them as much love and protected them as fiercely as I do Leaya they might have shown you a little in return. YOUR LOSS! And if you jerks treat your animals anything like you treat new forum members who don't share YOUR SIMPLE CLOSED MINDED VIEWS then i feel REALLY sorry for them.

It seems you mainly use this forum to bash other owners for not sharing your views, you say snakes don't have emotions. Then why does the female King Cobra in the wild, create an incubated nest, lay eggs, then wrap her body around the nest to both keep the eggs warm and aggressively protects them from any threat. Then when the eggs hatch she leaves to feed so she won't eat her young, then comes back to protect them.
Got three words for you: We don't know. Snakes are one of the creatures that man understands very little about, so unless you actually have a snakes brain in your head none of you know for certain anything that goes on in it.

You entertain me.

First of all, my snakes are snakes and I don't try to think more of them. I have owned far more than you've seen in person and I've had my hands on enough to form my opinions. So they aren't just picked out of the sky. So yes I DO know a DAMN thing.

Mine are NOT aggressive in the least as you claim them to be. How about YOU take your own advice and don't say anything because YOU DON'T KNOW. I'll post pics tomorrow of some of my snakes that "attack me when I look at them".

The funny part is, we actually DO know. There's been studies done on these animals brains and this is what they've come up with. Your random theory is based on primal instinct of ensuring the species survives.

Truth of the matter is, once baby snakes hatch. They take off. They don't sit around the nest and wait for mother to protect them. Where do you get this information?

herplovr_bri89 · 11-20-12, 04:38 PM

I think its funny how quickly a tirade came when the judgement was pointed at you, don't like it too much do you.

My research came from books, local owners of just about everything imaginable, and a handy thing called Google. And if people didn't have "random theories" in the first place they couldn't prove anything. And since you have never cared for YOUR snake in the manor that I care for MINE its obvious why my snake has a much different and unique behaviour towards me. And i meant NONE OF YOU KNOW A DAMN THING ABOUT LEAYA, yet you judge as if you do!!! You might know about bull snakes but you don't know S**T about HER. i asked if her actions were out of the ordinary and all u people did was criticize me for saying it "seemed like" she was doing it for what ever particular reason.

And maybe you should actually read things, if you had you would see i said "you've never THOUGHT of your herps as anything more than a cold beast that would bite you as soon as look at you" not that they actually did, but post to your heart's content

KORBIN5895 · 11-20-12, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by herplovr_bri89

I think its funny how quickly a tirade came when the judgement was pointed at you, don't like it too much do you.

My research came from books, local owners of just about everything imaginable, and a handy thing called Google. And if people didn't have "random theories" in the first place they couldn't prove anything. And since you have never cared for YOUR snake in the manor that I care for MINE its obvious why my snake has a much different and unique behaviour towards me. And i meant NONE OF YOU KNOW A DAMN THING ABOUT LEAYA, yet you judge as if you do!!! You might know about bull snakes but you don't know S**T about HER. i asked if her actions were out of the ordinary and all u people did was criticize me for saying it "seemed like" she was doing it for what ever particular reason.

And maybe you should actually read things, if you had you would see i said "you've never THOUGHT of your herps as anything more than a cold beast that would bite you as soon as look at you" not that they actually did, but post to your heart's content

Please remember to take your meds before posting again.

SpOoKy · 11-20-12, 05:04 PM

I am with Kat, I actually laughed out loud reading these posts...he guys guess what. The other day my snake gave me a big hug and wouldn't let go. Not because it wanted my warmth, but because he looooves me!

Come on buddy, read some actual scientific studies, not just google or yahoo questions where anybody can give any answer they like without having any proof to back it up. Snakes are incapable of feeling emotion. Scientific FACT! Your snake tolerates you but it does not love you.

If you read my first post, I told corrected you on what you though, then proceeded to ask for pictures. If I wanted to "DRIVE" you away I would have called you a fool and asked how you get through life on a day to day basis. Don't ask questions that you don't want factual answers too.

Wyldrose · 11-20-12, 05:15 PM

My Opinion:
You had your snake from a hatchling (young snakes are not infants). You handled her a lot. She got very tame. Your lucky you have a snake who is well taken care of.
Snakes do not have emotions like humans, snakes don't cry when they are sad, or even get sad. They are hard wired to survive, hunt, eat, bask, hide, shed etc.

Terranaut · 11-20-12, 05:46 PM

I am sorry you feel like your being stepped on here. The facts are there are many threads on here were we have discussed the fact that snakes do not have feelings or compassion or any of the cool traits we wish they did. They do not love or hate anything. It sounds like you have a super tame snake and thats great but everything else is just by chance. We had a little joke fun with you based on the fact that we know this is about as possible as you constricting a cow for your next steak. It simply isn't possible. Glad you love your snake unfortunately it can't love you back

sorry.

Lankyrob · 11-20-12, 06:18 PM

I can understand from your story why you anthropomorphise your snake, and i can also understand why you react emotionally when this theory is challenged but unfortunately all the facts show that what you describe cant be true.

If i make my house cold and get one of my snakes out of their enclosure the they wont want to leave me because i am WARM, not because they love me. If my cat gets too close they wont strike at it to defend me, they may strike to defend themselves from a predator or in the case of my larger snakes because they would try to eat the cat.

They breath, they eat, they ****, they shag, they piss, they eventually die - pretty much it and all instinctual things, not emotional ones.

herplovr_bri89 · 11-20-12, 06:26 PM

Honestly this Forum isn't worth my time, I don't think messing with someone's belief, values, or whatever happens to make them feel better, especially when that someone doesn't have all that much time left, is all that fun. Or funny at all. So I don't fit in, but go ahead and laugh all you want at the dying girl. I hope you get a real kick out of it. So continue making fun of me if that's what you need to feel.better about yourselves, you've worked me up to a point that I DO need to take.the 15 meds that are keeping me alive or I'll stroke.
I'll post a pic of that if you want proof!!!!

mykee · 11-20-12, 06:32 PM

We're not laughing and making fun of the dying girl, we're laughing and making fun of the stubborn and annoying one.
I also call BS but who really cares.
I smell Troll.
Easily fixed:

Jay · 11-20-12, 06:33 PM

These guys are just jealous that their snaks don't love them.

My snake is great, he doesn't move much so I take him out for a drag once a day, only after he gets his daily rat dipped in mayonnaise. Does that sound ridicules?

Now go do some research, lots of great threads on here regarding emotions in snakes. What I'm thinking you did was googled "does my snake love me." I can almost garunte that you found plenty of answers that made you feel warm, fact is, if your snake COULD feel emotions it would hate you.

Jay · 11-20-12, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by herplovr_bri89

Honestly this Forum isn't worth my time, I don't think messing with someone's belief, values, or whatever happens to make them feel better, especially when that someone doesn't have all that much time left, is all that fun. Or funny at all. So I don't fit in, but go ahead and laugh all you want at the dying girl. I hope you get a real kick out of it. So continue making fun of me if that's what you need to feel.better about yourselves, you've worked me up to a point that I DO need to take.the 15 meds that are keeping me alive or I'll stroke.
I'll post a pic of that if you want proof!!!!

Yes! "Pics or it didn't happen."