my lavendar cornsnake starved himself to death - Page 2

KORBIN5895 · 11-04-12, 07:36 AM

One of my blood red corns wouldn't eat.

exwizard · 11-04-12, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Aaron_S

Who drives home with a snake they just force fed?

Hindsight is 20/20

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Originally Posted by Aaron_S

I also highly doubt it was force feeding. Probably assist feeding. Force is when you literally take a pinky pump and pump pinky puree into the snake's stomach. Highly doubt it was that.

If that is what you call force feeding then what they did was assist feeding.

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Originally Posted by Aaron_S

Anyway, who did you buy the snake from? One of the big breeders or a small timer who had them for cheaper than anyone else?

I dont remember who the breeder was. The Tinley Park show was so big and there was a lot of people there including all the vendors. There was so much going on there. When we saw that little Lavender there and when I saw Rmf's excitement at finally seeing an available Lavender, I decided to get it for her.

shaunyboy · 11-04-12, 07:58 AM

FORCE feeding = cutting the legs off a pinkie and pushing it down the snakes throat,then massaging it down to is stomach

FORCE feeding = using a pinkie pump,it's a metal syringe that turns the pinkie into pulp,then pulp is squirted down snakes throat

FORCE feeding = using a syringe,infant feeding tube cut to the appropriate length,high protien cat/dog food from the vets,watered down into a paste,that will go through the feeding tube,the feeding tube is manovered down the snakes throat far enough,so that the paste goes down into the stomach and not back out the snakes mouth (i use this same method,for administering medication)

ASSIST feeding = putting a pinkies head into the snakes mouth,then allowing the snake to do the rest

FORCE FEEDING,should be a very last resort...!!

cheers shaun

P.S.the above is NOT directed at the op,i just wanted to clarify what force feeding is

exwizard · 11-04-12, 08:03 AM

They assist fed. They took a mouse pinkie, thawed it out, warmed it up and got it half way down. The snake did the rest himself.

shaunyboy · 11-04-12, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by exwizard

They assist fed. They took a mouse pinkie, thawed it out, warmed it up and shoved it all the way down.

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that was FORCE feeding mate

ASSIST feeding is....

when you open the snakes mouth with the head of a pinkie...

the snake bites down on the pinkie...

then you lay the snake in it's tank,with the pinkie still in its mouth and the snake,takes the rest of the pinkie down by ITSELF

cheers shaun

exwizard · 11-04-12, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by shaunyboy

FORCE feeding = cutting the legs off a pinkie and pushing it down the snakes throat,then massaging it down to is stomach

FORCE feeding = using a pinkie pump,it's a metal syringe that turns the pinkie into pulp,then pulp is squirted down snakes throat

FORCE feeding = using a syringe,infant feeding tube cut to the appropriate length,high protien cat/dog food from the vets,watered down into a paste,that will go through the feeding tube,the feeding tube is manovered down the snakes throat far enough,so that the paste goes down into the stomach and not back out the snakes mouth (i use this same method,for administering medication)

ASSIST feeding = putting a pinkies head into the snakes mouth,then allowing the snake to do the rest

FORCE FEEDING,should be a very last resort...!!

cheers shaun

P.S.the above is NOT directed at the op,i just wanted to clarify what force feeding is

I was going by your definition Shaun. It doesnt matter now anyway. Whats done is done and theres nothing that can be done about it now. Its like beating a dead horse into the ground. She tried to keep it alive by resorting to this but apparantly it was just a little too late. Again, hindsight is 20/20. In the future, any other snakes we get, we will make sure that it has already been established as an eater before we get it.

KORBIN5895 · 11-04-12, 08:20 AM

You guys should probably slow down as you aren't certain what actually killed this one.

Also you edited your post to cover your mistake. Don't blame Shaun.

rmfsnakes32 · 11-04-12, 08:22 AM

The reason I had to take the snake with me was because the person that knows how to assist feed (she has done this many times where as I had only done it on larger snakes) lives clear on the other side of town and was without a vehicle so thats why he regurged on the way home I know that is a stressful event anyway! In hindsight I should have left the snake at her place for a few days to digest. But a day late and a dollar short, life lesson learned!!!!!!!!!!!! I cant change the fact that he is dead!!!!!!!!! Thank you to those whose expressed their sympothies!

shaunyboy · 11-04-12, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by KORBIN5895

You guys should probably slow down as you aren't certain what actually killed this one.

Also you edited your post to cover your mistake. Don't blame Shaun.

i though i was going senile for a minute there Kevin....

but then i checked the part i quoted in my post,thats when i noticed the editing

cheers for spotting that mate

as said we're pretty much beating a dead horse/snake now

cheers shaun

exwizard · 11-04-12, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by KORBIN5895

You guys should probably slow down as you aren't certain what actually killed this one.

Also you edited your post to cover your mistake. Don't blame Shaun.

I edited my post because I was told more accurate info after my original post but before I read Shauns post. Im not blaming anyone and as far as us slowing down Ive already decided I have enough snakes anyway, but there's one other thing I need to say right now. What I see happening here is yet ANOTHER wolf pack mentality going on here. Some of you guys are on the condemnation attack AGAIN. Nothing productive can come of that so it needs to stop now. This is why a lot of people are hesitant to even post stuff like this.

KORBIN5895 · 11-04-12, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by exwizard

I was going by your definition Shaun. It doesnt matter now anyway. Whats done is done and theres nothing that can be done about it now. Its like beating a dead horse into the ground. She tried to keep it alive by resorting to this but apparantly it was just a little too late. Again, hindsight is 20/20. In the future, any other snakes we get, we will make sure that it has already been established as an eater before we get it.

Yep that's blaming.

Listen Gary. Take you kid gloves and soft touch over to rp. I for one am really getting tired of seeing your condemnation of people who correct others. If you want to coddle fine but if someone gets called out for there mistakes ( especially when they are trying to hide it or claim experience they don't have) too bad for them. If they can't tell the truth who cares if they get their fragile feelings hurt.

Jay · 11-04-12, 08:42 AM

Gary, Rmf. Slow down, you guys are way over your head.

exwizard · 11-04-12, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by KORBIN5895

Yep that's blaming.

Listen Gary. Take you kid gloves and soft touch over to rp. I for one am really getting tired of seeing your condemnation of people who correct others. If you want to coddle fine but if someone gets called out for there mistakes ( especially when they are trying to hide it or claim experience they don't have) too bad for them. If they can't tell the truth who cares if they get their fragile feelings hurt.

What part of S T O P do you not understand?! So stop already! Shes already stopped even reading this thread so its all moot anyway! I even doubt that she will come back here thanks to all the condemnation that was heaped upon her for even sharing this with you guys.

Also, whenever I see anyone being ganged up on I will defend them EVERY time. Count on it!

KORBIN5895 · 11-04-12, 08:44 AM

Not worth it.

**lady_bug87** · 11-04-12, 11:33 AM

My question is:
If you bought this thing at an expo, and it WASN'T an established eater, wouldn't you be able to tell?

I mean if it weren't eating with the same consistency as the other neonates, wouldn't it be smaller? Look more sickly?

And if the snake was very young (For example I bought my GTP 4 weeks after she hatched therefore I sort of knew the risk of her not being established) I would have suggested NOT buying it in favour or heartier looking specimens since corns are a dime-o-dozen.