Milk vs. Corn vs. King - Page 2

MoreliAddict · 07-24-12, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Jlassiter

Please explain these "quirks" kingsnakes have.....
I've had thousands over the past 20 or so years and still don't understand what you all mean by kings being quirky?

If it is feeding hatchlings after they hatch then I'd have to say my worst clutch of feeders was a cornsnake clutch........

Kings make great pets....as do corns.....

In my experience, Kings are one of the snakes that you could be handling without a problem, and next they'll latch onto your finger without warning. I've seen a corn get cage defensive, but not bite without warning like that...

Jlassiter · 07-24-12, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by MoreliAddict

In my experience, Kings are one of the snakes that you could be handling without a problem, and next they'll latch onto your finger without warning. I've seen a corn get cage defensive, but not bite without warning like that...

If fed correctly (not once a week) on the kingsnake's schedule they will not bite and latch on.....That is a feeding response, not a defensive response.

Feeding on a once a week schedule is the keeper's schedule not the king's.
A growing king will want to eat 2 to 3 times a week.
An adult king will want to eat every 5 to 10 days depending on the keeper's husbandry techniques/set up.

Oh...and you haven't had enough corns if you haven't been bitten by one.....lol

MoreliAddict · 07-24-12, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Jlassiter

If fed correctly (not once a week) on the kingsnake's schedule they will not bite and latch on.....That is a feeding response, not a defensive response.

Feeding on a once a week schedule is the keeper's schedule not the king's.
A growing king will want to eat 2 to 3 times a week.
An adult king will want to eat every 5 to 10 days depending on the keeper's husbandry techniques/set up.

Oh...and you haven't had enough corns if you haven't been bitten by one.....lol

Just to clarify: I've had 2 corns, and 0 kings. The king I was bitten by was a friend's. One the Corns would become cage-defensive if I wasn't handling it enough, and if it wasn't used to me.

Jlassiter · 07-24-12, 11:13 AM

Well I'd tell your friend to feed that king more......Just my opinion as I don't know his/her set up or husbandry details.....

Kettennatter · 07-24-12, 12:24 PM

I largely agree with Jlassiter, it's what every breeder told me. Then again, there are exceptions. My king will still strike food items when he's completely full. When he's hungry he'll come after me even outside his enclosure. Lol

Rogue628 · 07-24-12, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jlassiter

If fed correctly (not once a week) on the kingsnake's schedule they will not bite and latch on.....That is a feeding response, not a defensive response.

Feeding on a once a week schedule is the keeper's schedule not the king's.
A growing king will want to eat 2 to 3 times a week.
An adult king will want to eat every 5 to 10 days depending on the keeper's husbandry techniques/set up.

Oh...and you haven't had enough corns if you haven't been bitten by one.....lol

Ahhh....so maybe that's why my king likes to bite. She's not quite an adult yet, so maybe I should feed more frequently. However, she only bites the boyfriend....

Jlassiter · 07-24-12, 03:12 PM

Your BF smells like mice?.....J/K.....lol

If a thermal gradient is set up in a king's enclosure the keeper can tell when they want to feed when the snake is on the cool end conserving.

When they are full they are typically on the warm end metabolizing........

Adults eat larger meals and it takes them longer to digest the meals......And food is not needed for growth but rather used for sustaining......If an adult is fed too much it can become obese unless it is cycled and bred......

Young snakes eat smaller meals and they are digested quicker and used for growth......Thus they will eat more without ever becoming obese...especially if husbandry is correct.

rmfsnakes32 · 08-23-12, 10:42 AM

I have several corns adult and babies and a baby milksnake for beginer go with the corn milksnake is musky and nippy and for sure a fast little bugger go with a corn and make sure the cage has clamps corns are very good escape artists I lost a baby about a week ago and still havent found it

snake man12 · 08-23-12, 10:45 AM

kings are milks. They are all good choices.

Jlassiter · 08-23-12, 11:14 AM

No...milks are kings....Lampropeltis are all kings...some are milks

StudentoReptile · 08-23-12, 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jlassiter

Please explain these "quirks" kingsnakes have.....
I've had thousands over the past 20 or so years and still don't understand what you all mean by kings being quirky?

If it is feeding hatchlings after they hatch then I'd have to say my worst clutch of feeders was a cornsnake clutch........

Kings make great pets....as do corns.....

Ditto.

I think most kingsnakes (mainly L. getula sp) are equally good pets as cornsnakes.

I think most people are just wussies and put off by their strong feeding responses (OMG, they're too aggressive!). Methinks they've been playing with ball pythons for too long.

Some of the nicest (most docile) colubrids I have had have been kingsnakes.

rmfsnakes32 · 08-23-12, 12:30 PM

Thanks for the info I didnt realize milksnakes needed to eat so often I will change his feedings straight away