HYBRID'S how best to..... - Page 2

marvelfreak · 07-17-12, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by StudentoReptile

I dunno...all I can think of when mixing a red colored snake with a green colored snake is that you're going to get a muddy brown colored snake. Yeah, maybe the pattern will be funky-looking...but mixing those colors together...meh.

I'd mix the red blood to a yellow anaconda instead, since yellow might flow better with those red hues and perhaps create some nice oranges.

You must of misread it i said Yellow for that exacted reason. I bet the color and patterns would be insane looking.

StudentoReptile · 07-17-12, 07:48 PM

LOL...you're absolutely right! I was probably thinking of another hybrid as well as the alleged green anaconda x African rock hybrid from the other site, and my eyes apparently saw "green".

charlesc84 · 07-17-12, 11:35 PM

I would like to see a venomous snake crossed with a non venomous one.

Will0W783 · 07-18-12, 09:36 AM

Honestly I think the only way we're going to be able to even begin to check the limits of genetic compatibility is by in-vitro fertilization techniques or artificial incubation.

Say you want to cross a blood python with an anaconda. Well, breedings have not been successful and no one can seem to get viable embryos. We'd have to try to fertilize the eggs in vitro (like we do for infertile human couples), then implant them into the female. However, that still leaves the problem of egg-laying vs. live-birth compatibility. I think the best way to try it would be with a male python and female boa.

Same goes for venomous to non-venomous. In vitro fertilization, and I think we'd be best to stick with breeding egg-laying to egg-laying (python or colubrid to elapid) or live-birther to live-birther (boa to viper). Then you get the question of whether the offspring (if any are produced) are venomous or not, and to what degree. Also you'd have to keep in mind that if venomous offspring are produced, we would have no knowledge of the venom or any effective antivenins, so the babies would be extremely dangerous.

MoreliAddict · 07-18-12, 09:58 AM

lol @ the thought of a 20 foot venomous Retic...

StudentoReptile · 07-18-12, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by MoreliAddict

lol @ the thought of a 20 foot venomous Retic...

Nagina from the last couple Harry Potter films. She was pretty much just a suped-up CGI retic with venom.

MoreliAddict · 07-18-12, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by StudentoReptile

Nagina from the last couple Harry Potter films. She was pretty much just a suped-up CGI retic with venom.

Nagini didn't have venom, at least not in the movies. She clearly had teeth, not fangs, and tried to constrict Ron and Harry at one point.

She also bit the snot out of some guy and he survived. Harry saw it happen in his dream, maybe it was the 5th movie....

marvelfreak · 07-18-12, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Will0W783

Honestly I think the only way we're going to be able to even begin to check the limits of genetic compatibility is by in-vitro fertilization techniques or artificial incubation.

Say you want to cross a blood python with an anaconda. Well, breedings have not been successful and no one can seem to get viable embryos. We'd have to try to fertilize the eggs in vitro (like we do for infertile human couples), then implant them into the female. However, that still leaves the problem of egg-laying vs. live-birth compatibility. I think the best way to try it would be with a male python and female boa.

TEST TUBE SNAKE! Then you won't need to do vitro. Just do it all in the lab and send me the first born.

Wildside · 07-18-12, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MoreliAddict

lol @ the thought of a 20 foot venomous Retic...

Wasn't there a "scientist" on one of the news shows who claimed that the Burms would cross with the rattlers when the "Ban" first came about? I think it was in regards to that ridiculous climate map they released on areas suitable for giant pythons to live in the U.S.

Wonder what an 18 ft. rattling burm would sound like?

StudentoReptile · 07-18-12, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MoreliAddict

Nagini didn't have venom, at least not in the movies. She clearly had teeth, not fangs, and tried to constrict Ron and Harry at one point.

She also bit the snot out of some guy and he survived. Harry saw it happen in his dream, maybe it was the 5th movie....

Well, she only bit Snape at the end, and he died, presumably of the venom. I guess I just assumed because she was venomous in the books she was in the films. I suppose it is true that no one ever came right out and said "Hey, Nagini is/isn't venomous!"

MoreliAddict · 07-18-12, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by StudentoReptile

suppose it is true that no one ever came right out and said "Hey, Nagini is/isn't venomous!"

Exactly. Could have sworn Nagini bit some guy with red hair in the 5th movie, and he lived. Nagini should have just swallowed Snape...

StudentoReptile · 07-18-12, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MoreliAddict

Exactly. Could have sworn Nagini bit some guy with red hair in the 5th movie, and he lived. Nagini should have just swallowed Snape...

She did bite Arthur Weasely, and Harry actually saw this vicariously through the snake (the scar somehow was acting up and connected him to Vordemort's mind, and likewise Nagini's).

IN the book, Mr. Weasley was treated (by magic obviously) for his bite wounds. I don't think the incident was made clear in the film, as such is the way with film adaptions from books. The books always give more detail, and in the film, a lot was cut out and the scene was mainly focusing on Harry (of course).

KORBIN5895 · 07-19-12, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by StudentoReptile

She did bite Arthur Weasely, and Harry actually saw this vicariously through the snake (the scar somehow was acting up and connected him to Vordemort's mind, and likewise Nagini's).

IN the book, Mr. Weasley was treated (by magic obviously) for his bite wounds. I don't think the incident was made clear in the film, as such is the way with film adaptions from books. The books always give more detail, and in the film, a lot was cut out and the scene was mainly focusing on Harry (of course).

Just like this thread.

StudentoReptile · 07-19-12, 07:00 AM

Indeed. LOL.

MoreliAddict · 07-19-12, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by StudentoReptile

She did bite Arthur Weasely, and Harry actually saw this vicariously through the snake (the scar somehow was acting up and connected him to Vordemort's mind, and likewise Nagini's).

IN the book, Mr. Weasley was treated (by magic obviously) for his bite wounds. I don't think the incident was made clear in the film, as such is the way with film adaptions from books. The books always give more detail, and in the film, a lot was cut out and the scene was mainly focusing on Harry (of course).

Gonna watch some Harry Potter later tonight...