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01-15-03, 02:24 PM
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Sorry about loss bro
I am sorry about your loss..Don't worry about what the other people say about it being your fault..f.em..Sheite happens..I know how much of your time and care that you put into your snakes..you sometimes can never know what a snake can get into or out of...so chill and take it as an lesson learned....:w
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01-15-03, 02:24 PM
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Jay man, sorry to hear about your loss.... Dont be to hard on yourself man, mistakes happen and it could have happened to anyone.
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01-15-03, 02:28 PM
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Yeah, tough break man!
I'm truly sorry for your loss.
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01-15-03, 02:31 PM
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Sheite happens..I know how much time and care you put into your snakes..I know of many many people(including reptile stores)that put screened-off lights in enclosures. I do in some of my bigger enclosures, and never had a problem because the snakes are large, but they were not always as big as they are now...it's a dice roll sometimes..
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01-15-03, 02:45 PM
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thanks everyone for all your kind words!!
jay
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01-15-03, 02:50 PM
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yes I too feel for your loss. I don't know if it was stupidity was it? but maybe design flaw? It is my understanding that snakes' nerves are so deep into their skin that by the time they feel or would feel it they are already very badly burnt or dead? Am I wrong in this understanding?
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01-15-03, 02:51 PM
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I think I have heard that as well Them and US. That's why it's so important not to use Human heating pads on full blast.
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01-15-03, 04:30 PM
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*******It's amazing though how stupid these animals can be! To wrap itself around a heat light to the point of burning itself to death.
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it might just be me but i find that comment offensive and disrespectful to the animal. it certanly didnt know what the heck a light bulb was and that it would kill it. probably got trapped ::shrugs:: but hey accidents happen! i have my lamp guards bolted to the top of the viv with 4 inch bolts :-) i know theyre not gonna get into there! sorry to hear about it though. i hate it when pets die even more so when its the pretty ones ::sigh:: better luck in the future! 4 inch bolts are the way to go mate!
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01-15-03, 09:41 PM
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Words to be said
hey babe
it true you shouldn't be so hard on your self . and it wasn't your fault i was there when you put the light on and there weas no possible way romeo could have gotten in there i still haven't figure out how he did yet like you said you had told me earier you couldn't tell where he had got in..
Yes Romeo was beautiful and he was also a great snake, pet , friend, whatever anyone wants to call it ,to me it was a greatr friend , snake pet . he was a great everything and he is still loved even thought he may not be w/ us any \more jay and still a\will always love him.
Jay please dont be so hard on yourself it wasn't your fault or mine .Things happen good or bad...
"Romeo you'll be loved and not fogetten, Someday you, jay and i will all meet in another life som how take care my friend "
i'll miss you
Kelly
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01-15-03, 09:46 PM
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thanks babe i love you !
ttyl babe
bye
jay
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01-15-03, 09:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Pixie
It's amazing though how stupid these animals can be! To wrap itself around a heat light to the point of burning itself to death. You'd think they'd have some kind of instinct mecanism telling them "it's too hot here, you're burning!". For animals that thermoregulate, you'd think they'd know when it's too hot. Weird.
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There is nothing stupid about them. Their nerve sensors are buried much deeper than ours are, and by the time they feel themselves getting burned, its too late
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01-15-03, 10:07 PM
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XxRachxX: I'm sorry to have offended you with my comment, but it was definetely not my intention just a statement. How you associate it with disrespect, I don't know. The one thing I have the most respect for are animals especially snakes, I wouldn't own some if I didn't.
I said what I said because I really can't understand how an animal that thermoregulates can burn itself to death. To survive they have to constantly move to different areas to achieve to correct temperature needed at the time. This doesn't happen haphazardly when it's cold or need warmth for whatever reason it seeks it just like when it's too warm and needs to cool down it seeks a cooler area. Snakes are extremely effective at detecting temperature gradients and fluctuations, they almost see in "heat vision". So that's where I wonder. How or more WHY would a snake wrap itself a heat bulb and remain there till it died. It's not like it can't tell that the bulb is emitting heat and at some point the snake has to start feeling too warm and needs to get to a cool area. If the snake was found in the lamp's screened box and not around the bulb I could see it being trapped and not being able to get out. So, why does something like this happen? In MY opinion snakes are just not too bright. They sure don't have big brains and they live almost solely on instinct.
So I think snakes are stupid, I still love em and respect them and always will. And I still can't live without the dumb buggers.
Pixie
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01-15-03, 10:18 PM
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im sorry for your loss. we have all done things that we look back on and go "i was so stupid" but there was no fault in it. sometimes things happen that we dont understand when we look back. take it as a lesson learned the hard way. and thanks for sharing so no one else makes the same slip.
*hugs*
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01-16-03, 01:22 AM
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well
well pixie yeah i agree w/ you on the hot and cold thing but the thing was with the heat light it was on a temperture gage it would go to the temp it needed then it would turn off once it was at the temp needed and then it would come back on when is cooled down just to keep the temp the same all the time .....
well romeo rest in peice and you'll never be forgotten ..
he was a beautiful and well loved snake....
loven you always romeo
Kelly
(P.S. if you are wondering who i am i am jays girlfriend(soon to be wife) so know you know ....)
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01-16-03, 02:05 AM
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I had a kitty named romeo who got hit by a car last september... he was one year old on that day, too. Don't ask me how he managed to get outside, he was an inside cat... anyway, sorry about your bp!
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