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Strutter769 · 02-27-12, 12:29 AM

Honestly, my BCI gave me no problems (@ about 6') with the shots for her URI at about 2-3 years of age.. As long as you're smart about it, injections are no big deal for your Boa or python.

Caylan · 02-27-12, 12:32 AM

My active ones just aren't fans of being restrained at the best of times lol, that's why I said it. Burms are usually very easy going however they might not be at that age. Little go getters...

Spaghetti · 02-27-12, 01:32 AM

I'm nervous about injections...I've kept snakes for years and years, and this is first problem I've had. I hope I can give it orally somehow, he's just so tiny, I'm very worried about hurting him.

As for his setup, he's in a quarantine tank with some eco earth as a substrate. He's got all the basics, hides, a water dish, etc. Temps have been bumped up a bit to help with his RI, the cool side is 80, warm side is 90.

Caylan · 02-27-12, 01:39 AM

He's not tiny compared to what can take injections... the vet may be able to it if you're unwilling. It isn't that difficult though, and can help you en still trust with your snake. I remember giving a snake an oral treatment for something totally different, that was just shot down his throat with a syringe... He didn't like that one bit, and he was a super docile snake. He ended up dying(I almost cried actually, poor snake, didn't deserve it.. I should have bought him when he was available........) so oral may not be your best option either, unless it can be injected into a prey item, which may not act quick enough for this situation. You are probably best off with an injection directly into the snake. Doing it the once will make you feel like you can doing anything for a snake, it's an awesome feeling. He'll get better, so don't worry. You and your vet can decide the best course of action.

Caylan · 02-27-12, 01:41 AM

I'd almost switch him to newspaper as well, no dust or moisture.... but that'd your call, if your eco earth is rather dry then it might not be necessary. Are you using a hydrometer?

Spaghetti · 02-27-12, 02:11 AM

Yea, I used a hair dryer to dry out the eco earth until the humidity was at about 50%. Obviously, it took a lot of checking every 10 minutes, but it worked.

Caylan · 02-27-12, 02:28 AM

Oh perfect, Good Macguivering! He should be comfy in that, it will help absorb extra moisture from air that way as well. I have a huge bin full of coco husk that's dry as a bone now, I use it in a few of cages and add moisture as necessary. But generally I like it best dry, and the air moist, with the use of a large water bowl and controlled ventilation. He should be good now until he see's the vet at least!

Spaghetti · 02-27-12, 03:52 AM

I feel like a new mother who has a baby with the flu....I can't sleep, I've been peering into the room he's in just to check on him every few hours, haha. It's almost 5am...

I know that nothing is going to change from hour to hour, but I've honestly never had an RI in my collection before. I've always been very careful with husbandry to make sure I prevented an issue before it happened. Guess there's a first time for everything.

Caylan · 02-27-12, 03:56 AM

You're doing great, going overboard if anything lol. Your burm will be fine, don't worry so much. Get some sleep, check on him, take him the vet, and you're golden.

Spaghetti · 02-27-12, 12:00 PM

Update: My vet is really busy, but he's promised to squeeze me in before the end of the week. I have an appointment for Friday, but his receptionist is going to call me asap when they have a sooner opening. If the snake begins to worsen, I'm going to just do a walk-in at another office, but I really like this vet, so I'm hoping to be able to go to him.

SpOoKy · 02-27-12, 12:39 PM

Is he a reptile vet?
No offence to cat and dog vets but they usually have no clue about reptiles.

Spaghetti · 02-27-12, 01:00 PM

Yes, he specializes in birds, actually, but he also does a lot of work with reptiles.

**millertime89** · 02-27-12, 01:16 PM

Keep that humidity UP. Burms need 70+% when little and higher to fight off RIs successfully. A hot spot of 92-95 will be perfect. But you'll most likely need to give your little guy injections, Keep him warm and take him to the vet ASAP. You need to call your vet back and impress upon him that if he doesn't see you soon there's a good chance the snake will die. That usually gets them moving and is completely true. Yes you do need air movement, but high humidity is IMO more important at this time. Keeping him on newspaper is a good call too.

shaunyboy · 02-27-12, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Spaghetti

Got it. Yea, if I don't see a significant improvement within 24 hours, I'm taking the little guy in.

imo,you won't see an improovement in 24 hours,snakes take a bit longer to show improovements

i raise my hot end temps by 5 degrees f.

keep a close eye on things and usually after a week or two the clicking/wheezing stops

thats if the respiritory is caught at an early stage

cheers shaun

shaunyboy · 02-27-12, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Caylan

Yeah typically that's where injections are given, and no they don't enjoy it much. I think it might be able to be administered orally as well by injecting it into the rat, but I'm not certain on this. That may be a remedy for something totally different, I wish I could remember... I still think you'd be doing injections into the snake for this case though.
Just curious what his set up is like, what size cage and stuff. Not a big deal, just curious lol. I miss my burm...

i use only oral baytril i use

i use a syringe and infant feeding tube cut to size to administer it

pop the tube far enough down the snakes throat to stop the meds coming back up

with an adult carpet 3 to 5 inchs

hatchlings an inch or two

as long as the meds are not spilling out the snakes mouth

i only use injectables as a last resort

cheers shaun