Reptile slaughter house. Warning Very Graphic - Page 2

youngster · 09-15-11, 04:29 AM

I'm glad that my family only eats meat from a local farm that my brother works on. We know exactly where our beef comes from.

infernalis · 09-15-11, 04:53 AM

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I'm glad that my family only eats meat from a local farm that my brother works on. We know exactly where our beef comes from.

You get better beef that way too.

ladyjustice33 · 09-15-11, 08:23 AM

Slaughter houses should have more regulations, the animals should have to be kept in a more humane environment and killed in a humane manner and it should be for food only. Killing animals for cosmetic reasons is just wrong in my opinion. Same with animal tesing, as humane as possible and only for reasons involving medications and saving lives and only if completely necessary. Testing cosmetics on animals is just wrong too in my opinion.....I always read labels!!! That's my stand and I couldn't watch the video either, can't stand to see anything treated cruelly.

NennaMeerkat · 09-15-11, 08:37 AM

I didn't watch the video yet, but I will give my points on how I feel about the fur/skin industry in general. And this goes for ANY animal...since in some countries they use cats and dogs for furs since it is cheaper.

It doesn't bother me that people are using skin or fur for anything. It doesn't bother me that the meat is wasted in this process. Nor do I really care that they aren't treated 100% humane before being killed or during the killing process. Most of the time these animals are mostly under a year old (younger fur is softer fur) and don't know the feeling of anything other than what they have lived in from the get go.

Now what I don't like is when people take pets, wild animals, or otherwise well treated animals to use for the fur/skin industry. It doesn't sit well for an animal that has known freedom, comfort, ect. to suddenly be thrown into a horrible lifestyle and/or be killed in a horrible manner JUST for the fur/skin.

Now as far as meat animals go I think it is perfectly fine for a animal in the wild, a "pet" (in the case of people keeping cows, chickens and pigs), or large scale farmed animals to be killed for food. I also understand the need to make it an assembly line due to the sheer quantity that is in demand. If you took the time to do it nicely in whatever form you consider nicely then it would be a waste of money and time AND we would end up with the brunt end when meat prices shoot up.

And while I am stepping on toes I will even go as far to say that the people in other countries that eat horses, goats, dogs, cats, ect. that we consider taboo to eat...all the more power to them. Again its all meat in the end and I know that if it came down to starvation or your dearly beloved fido you would chow down in the end.

youngster · 09-15-11, 08:40 AM

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Now what I don't like is when people take pets, wild animals, or otherwise well treated animals to use for the fur/skin industry.

They use wild blood pythons in the video.

NennaMeerkat · 09-15-11, 08:44 AM

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They use wild blood pythons in the video.

Yes I realize that youngster and it is very sad. What you won't see is practices like this in the US (or shouldn't since they are regulated by the government). In fact you make more money farming your own animals rather than catching wild ones. But that is also a poor country without the real ability to farm animals like we can over in the states.

RandyRhoads · 09-15-11, 09:50 AM

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It would be different if the meat was being used as food.

Here's the thing, we all get upset as hell when we see this sort of thing happening with snakes or lizards.

Just remember where that cheeseburger and chicken wings we all crave come from.

I won't go into details, just google or youtube Veal, Lamb, Beef, Chicken, Turkey, or just about every other living organism on this planet followed by the word "Slaughterhouse" and I all but guarantee you will see very similar sights.

We excuse ourselves for slaughtering mice and rats [how many rodents per day get put down at say just rodent pro alone] so our snakes can eat, we get pissed when someone on a mouse/rat/hamster/gerbil forum calls us monsters for feeding our herps.

It's all in your perspective of what you see before you.

We see an atrocity against animals we love, They see snakes as money / nuisance / dangerous, whatever.

If you really look into the fish industry, those critters are treated as if they have no brains at all, and/or no ability to feel pain, "Fishermen" often leave them on a chain with clips to expire slowly from the gut hook... Etc.

So think carefully before you post

Hit the nail on the head. Brilliantly put.

SnakeyJay · 09-15-11, 10:27 AM

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Hit the nail on the head. Brilliantly put.

Yes, but snakes need to eat to live, we dont need snake skin or fur to live.. its optional, and as humans we have the capability to use alternative materials.

infernalis · 09-15-11, 10:30 AM

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Yes, but snakes need to eat to live, we dont need snake skin or fur to live.. its optional, and as humans we have the capability to use alternative materials.

I agree fully with what you are saying, Kindly indicate where in that video it is disclosed that the flesh was not being used to serve over rice or make soup.

RandyRhoads · 09-15-11, 10:36 AM

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Yes, but snakes need to eat to live, we dont need snake skin or fur to live.. its optional, and as humans we have the capability to use alternative materials.

We also don't need to eat hamburgers, or other meat products to live. There are alternatives. There is no difference between snakes and cattle except YOU like them more. Favoritism. Principles are the same. I'm assuming you're a vegetarian because you dont NEED to eat a poor cow or chicken?

RandyRhoads · 09-15-11, 10:40 AM

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I agree fully with what you are saying, Kindly indicate where in that video it is disclosed that the flesh was not being used to serve over rice or make soup.

I'd be willing to bet almost all leftovers get used if it's a third world country or in a place with small villages. The "hungry villagers" (if there are villagers) probablly turn stuff we wouldn't think of eating into food.

Gungirl · 09-15-11, 10:46 AM

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I'd be willing to bet almost all leftovers get used if it's a third world country or in a place with small villages. The "hungry villagers" (if there are villagers) probablly turn stuff we wouldn't think of eating into food.

I second this.. We are far more wasteful than places like that are. I'm ok with what they are doing as long as they use all the animal they can. I don't care for how they kill the animal but it's a different country and things are done differently. I hunt and they might not like how I do things or how much of the the animal I use..you have to watch and read about things like this with a VERY open mind. Just because we don't like it doesn't make it wrong.

**millertime89** · 09-15-11, 11:00 AM

I agree with the people saying that as long as all the parts are being used (or almost all) I'm ok with it. I wish they were killed a little more humanely, but what can you do?

infernalis · 09-15-11, 11:04 AM

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..you have to watch and read about things like this with a VERY open mind. Just because we don't like it doesn't make it wrong.

Thanks for having such a level head.

Cripton805 · 09-23-11, 02:52 PM

Blood pythons are beautiful snakes. Very sad, but the difference between this and chicken, etc... is that we don't wear the chickens, we eat them. Not just for a stupid fashion when theres plenty of other choices available.