Feeding Time for Sage

[marionsclan]

Originally Posted by forza_inter

serious?? i didnt know that....who in their right mind would even take a chance doing something like that?? thats just cruel

That is being done every day to most animals/reptiles in captivity. There is always someone who wants a species that is more special looking than any one else has and that is who the breeders cater to.

Soon they will figure out how to remove the wobble, but I'm sure something else will replace it, but most likely something not as obvious so they can charge more money for it.

And as long as we are buying snakes other than normals we contribute to the demand and therefore continue the cruelty.

[youngster]

Stephan what are the other morphs/species that have this?

[SnakeyJay]

Originally Posted by marionsclan

That is being done every day to most animals/reptiles in captivity. There is always someone who wants a species that is more special looking than any one else has and that is who the breeders cater to.

Soon they will figure out how to remove the wobble, but I'm sure something else will replace it, but most likely something not as obvious so they can charge more money for it.

And as long as we are buying snakes other than normals we contribute to the demand and therefore continue the cruelty.

Not digging here.... I personally dont have any problems with morphs, but if this is your oppinion why do you have a het pied?
And does anyone know of any issues with sharp albino that may happen?

[Coffee Black]

Go with Shaun's method. Pinkies thaw fairly quickly. Within an hour or two usually, depending on room temps. Anything up to small rats thaw fairly quickly, I've found. I got home at 7:30 in the evening last night and took out a rat pup for my coastal. Fed her at 10:00 after dunking the rat in some warm water to make it warm to the touch and just to give her added moisture. The water wasn't necessary, I just do it to make sure she senses the heat and for some added water. I never see her drinking from her bowl.

[youngster]

Originally Posted by Coffee Black

Go with Shaun's method. Pinkies thaw fairly quickly. Within an hour or two usually, depending on room temps. Anything up to small rats thaw fairly quickly, I've found. I got home at 7:30 in the evening last night and took out a rat pup for my coastal. Fed her at 10:00 after dunking the rat in some warm water to make it warm to the touch and just to give her added moisture. The water wasn't necessary, I just do it to make sure she senses the heat and for some added water. I never see her drinking from her bowl.

But with a cornsnake they can't detect the heat correct? So if it gets a little cool it's not much of a problem I think.

[Marica]

I have never in all my years had a pinky explode while thawing in hot tap water. I could possibly see an issue using kettle boiled water though Lovely motley corn by the way and thanks for sharing feeding pics. While corns don't have heat sensory pits, I suspect warm prey gives off more of a scent than cold, though some snakes may not care either way. And, he may yet coil one of his meals, he may never, but as long as he's eating all is well

[youngster]

Originally Posted by Marica

Lovely motley corn by the way and thanks for sharing feeding pics

Thank you! And its my pleasure to share the pictures

[Ch^4]

Originally Posted by youngster

Stephan what are the other morphs/species that have this?

If I am correct, you are asking what other BP morph displays a "wobble?" The Woma BP morph also can exhibit a "wobble." And ALL Spider BPs have the "wobble." The untrained eye may not see it, but experienced breeders (i.e., Mykee, Julian, Aaron, etc.) can easily pick it out. I don't work with this morph but admire their beauty and the combos they create.

Originally Posted by youngster

But with a cornsnake they can't detect the heat correct? So if it gets a little cool it's not much of a problem I think.

Correct! Corn snakes will take food at room temp. They are visual, vibratory, and olfactory hunters.

[youngster]

Thanks errybody. If I get a normal I won't have to make very much money so it's all good

[Ch^4]

By the way, GREAT looking little corn snake! My normal BP is my oldest and (shhh, don't tell the others) most cherished snake. He's been through a lot with me and I wouldn't trade him for any morph.

[marionsclan]

Originally Posted by Snakey-Jay-BRB

Not digging here.... I personally dont have any problems with morphs, but if this is your oppinion why do you have a het pied?

When I first purchased my BP I thought Het Pied was just the name of the breed and I was not aware of all the morphing going on, but as I learned more about them I felt that even though some of them are extremely beautiful (ie. Blue-eyed amelanistic BP, or a true Pied) that I will probably not buy one like that from a breeder but rather from a private person who wants to get rid of it. For the same reason I get all my other animals from shelters or private individuals and will continue to do so until there is a dramatic reduction in surrendered animals.

Ideally, I would like to see every breeder (of anything) get a license with a certain amount of animals they are allowed to breed which is renewable every year and the amount will change based on the population of the local shelters. And private individuals will be fined the amount it would take to 'fix' their animal should it end up breeding. And then they will have to get it fixed. That way supply and demand can be kept at a pretty good balance. Of course, there will always be underground breeders, but I think this idea could make a good dent in the current over population at shelters.

[youngster]

Originally Posted by Ch^4

By the way, GREAT looking little corn snake! My normal BP is my oldest and (shhh, don't tell the others) most cherished snake. He's been through a lot with me and I wouldn't trade him for any morph.

Yeah, it took me awhile to find the perfect one.