At wits end :(

[stephanbakir]

Liking? You don't like chicken broth or spending money?
There are cheap ways of making it that cost pennies, and actually make a decent meal.

[stephanbakir]

i believe he was referring to planting them, regarding what type of soil to use.
Wow, wrong post, was meant to be directed at jay.

[NennaMeerkat]

I also heard that tuna or salmon juice can work as well. Not sure how founded it is though...

[stephanbakir]

I've tried tuna juice smeared on a mouse to get a wild garter to eat once. It worked.

[SpOoKy]

Tuna works also but I find chicken broth to be the best. Got to the store and buy the mini snack ziplock baggies and when you open a can divide the rest of the can into small "dip-able" portions and freeze it.

[KD35WIN.AS.ONE]

Originally Posted by ilovemypets1988

1.) force feed the snake (sending the feed animal down the throat by hand - i dont like the process myself but sometimes it has to be done)

Ive had to result to this with a snake im still keeping, tube assist feeding... She took her prey and eats every time now. Its a proven method, a lot of people say its to stressful but it works.

[stephanbakir]

It works, but should be kept as a LAST RESORT

[shaunyboy]

once you post pictures it will give us an idea of the condition of the snakes

if they are in a bad way then the methods i'd suggest will be more extreme

if they are not in really bad health.....

put their tanks where the least human traffic is at your house,then give them peace and quiet going near them only to change the water every 5 or so days

leave them for 10 days to settle

then offer food as its getting dark,be as quiet as possible lift the tub lid and offer heated prey item on tongs.you will have to read the snake and if its acting nervous instead of offering on tongs, i would leave the item in over night.

i'm not having a go but you have listed an awfull lot of feeding attempts for only having them 4 weeks

the shop should not have sold non feeders in the first place but since its done now we must concentrate on getting them eating

mykee would be the expert on balls and he would have much more knowledge on just how many hatchlings tend to need such extreme methods as assist fed to get them going.(its only carpets i keep)

so mykee ?

cheers shaun

[ilovemypets1988]

Originally Posted by shaunyboy

once you post pictures it will give us an idea of the condition of the snakes

if they are in a bad way then the methods i'd suggest will be more extreme

if they are not in really bad health.....

put their tanks where the least human traffic is at your house,then give them peace and quiet going near them only to change the water every 5 or so days

leave them for 10 days to settle

then offer food as its getting dark,be as quiet as possible lift the tub lid and offer heated prey item on tongs.you will have to read the snake and if its acting nervous instead of offering on tongs, i would leave the item in over night.

i'm not having a go but you have listed an awfull lot of feeding attempts for only having them 4 weeks

the shop should not have sold non feeders in the first place but since its done now we must concentrate on getting them eating

mykee would be the expert on balls and he would have much more knowledge on just how many hatchlings tend to need such extreme methods as assist fed to get them going.(its only carpets i keep)

so mykee ?

cheers shaun

i didnt think of that tbh, the methods i listed are the only things i can think of as they are regularly thought of when the ball pythons feeding comes up, luckily though, i have never had to do any of them and hope i never have to.

however if the situation would arise, then i would use what ever means is necessary to help my snakes feed while understanding that in the wild, they wouldnt eat as regularly as they do in captivity in the first place.

[unknownclown]

Well my hubby was on the computer all night last night and I couldnt post pics
I did manage to check this post last night and decided I would brain a pinky rat. YUCKY I went to use a knife since I figured it would be easiest and darn near cut the head in half... forgot how soft them heads are :-P I put her in a box with it and as of this morning she still hasnt eaten... :-(

[ilovemypets1988]

if u want, you can email me the pics and i will put them up for you

[mykee]

Chicken broth; what a load of crayp!
There are no chickens in Africa, it's an old wives tale.
AND if they get a taste for it, you'll have a pot of chicken soup cookin' for the next 35 years.
Disregard that "advice".

You have a huge issue.
I'll give you some wonderful advice but I must first use you as an example as what NOT to do; DON'T try to save an extra $10 or $15 by cheaping out and getting the 'non-eaters' or WC/CB babies.
They will likely die.
Go ahead and spend an extra $30 and buy two babies that are:
1. Well established eaters.
2. From a reputable breeder, there are TONS of them out there now.

My advice: Take notes; put them into a smaller enclosure. I don't care how small you think the one you have them in now is, get a smaller one and do it quickly. Babies that do not eat have an expiration date of roughly six weeks.
If they have not eaten, I would recommned putting them in an enclosure that has no more than 1.5 sq. ft. of floor space. Cover 1/3 to 1/4 of that space with heat, and put in a hide that is half the size of the enclosure.
95 on the warm side (yes, 95, trust me) and 80-83 on the cool side. Give them a large water dish, one big enough to soak in, they're dehydrated for sure.
Offer them a very small (5-7g) live rat fuzzy. The mouse can do no harm at that size, don't worry about it.
Get back to us when it all works out for you.
Good luck.

[stephanbakir]

Careful with stress, dont try and feed the snake daily, wait at least 3-4 days in between preferably 7.

[unknownclown]

Well I sent lovemypets 2 pics of the worst one the female she definitely looks dehydrated with the remains of a bad shed. I was hoping that would clear up on its own with humidity and water dish. I'm worried about fussing with that too much cause I don't want to stress it too much.

[ilovemypets1988]

here we are all, the pics that clown sent me: