Animal Planet/Rattlesnake republic - on rattlensnake roundups - Page 2

forza_inter · 06-23-11, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Dehlida

I guess the above posters are 100% vegan? Do you care to think about what happened to all of your food? Before you go off on me- unless you are living a completely vegan lifestyle you have absolutely no room to talk. I firmly believe that 99% of the animals in our food industry are treated WORSE than rattlesnakes at a once a year roundup in texas.

Somehow, the snake is worse and eating meat isn't wrong at all. Hypocritical in an extreme fashion. Circle of life, I love my hamburgers just as much as the next person, do tell me how you would like the snakes killed for consumption since this method is so wrong? We could always use the same methods used by commercial meat packers, I'd love to see your reactions when REAL cruelty takes place.

vegan? its a reptile for christ sakes....you want meat eat beef, eat pork....thats why those animals are FARM ANIMALS, they are born and raised on farms for that purpose. reptiles are an EXOTIC animal....people eat that **** for god knows what reason. its disgusting

and in regards to feeding snakes mice and rats....ya they are classified as VERMIN....they are pests. when was an ecosystem ever faltered because of a lack of mice? or a lack of rats? massive numbers of rattlesnake are being removed from areas that require those animals to keep the balance of that ecosystem.

Dehlida · 06-23-11, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by forza_inter

vegan? its a reptile for christ sakes....you want meat eat beef, eat pork....thats why those animals are FARM ANIMALS, they are born and raised on farms for that purpose. reptiles are an EXOTIC animal....people eat that **** for god knows what reason. its disgusting

and in regards to feeding snakes mice and rats....ya they are classified as VERMIN....they are pests. when was an ecosystem ever faltered because of a lack of mice? or a lack of rats? massive numbers of rattlesnake are being removed from areas that require those animals to keep the balance of that ecosystem.

Reptiles are eaten extremely commonly across many cultures in the world. People in the south eat reptiles all the time. So clearly the farm animal is worth less than the rattlesnake? The butchering of a farm animal means less than a beheading of a snake for food.

Many people regard snakes as VERMIN, pests. Massive numbers are removed every year without ill effects- clearly the population is high enough to support this practice?

I find it rather disgusting that you would say that the cow raised on the farm is worth less and deserves to die and be butchered poorly but the rattlesnake should be left untouched because your difference of opinion.

forza_inter · 06-23-11, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Dehlida

Culturally people eat rattlesnake- I've had it and I must say it's pretty good meat. Also, less bites on humans because lower population. It isn't all bad.

less bites....less bites....im so sure your using this to defend the round ups.

an ecosystem is being tampered with and your saying its ok because less people are bit....

an effortless amount of research would educate you to realize that most of those bites occur because people cant leave well enough alone. they try to catch or kill snakes when they come across them...and like any living animal whos life is at risk, they defend themselves.....

this is all common sense....i dont mean to sound like a prick, but as someone already said: when you come into a reptile forum and say that the slaughter of large quantities of snakes is acceptable...its going to piss people off

forza_inter · 06-23-11, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Dehlida

Reptiles are eaten extremely commonly across many cultures in the world. People in the south eat reptiles all the time. So clearly the farm animal is worth less than the rattlesnake? The butchering of a farm animal means less than a beheading of a snake for food.

Many people regard snakes as VERMIN, pests. Massive numbers are removed every year without ill effects- clearly the population is high enough to support this practice?

I find it rather disgusting that you would say that the cow raised on the farm is worth less and deserves to die and be butchered poorly but the rattlesnake should be left untouched because your difference of opinion.

yea your right....in many cultures they are eaten....and why? because in those villages where they RELY on snakes to provide for food they dont have farms filled with mass amounts of cows and pigs. im pretty sure they have cows and pigs in texas, do they not?

forza_inter · 06-23-11, 08:52 PM

they sell the god dam skin and heads for profit....like i cant believe im even arguing this issue with someone....like really man?????

Jay · 06-23-11, 08:54 PM

Snakes are a pest in some areas. I am 50/50 on this topic, note that I don't agree with the mass slaughter. I think most snakes are killed for these 2 reasons.
-food, by hunters
-fear, by un educated people
and I am sure some do it for fun.

forza_inter · 06-23-11, 08:58 PM

i dont have a problem with people in a village in brazil catching snakes for food so they can survive...sure i wish they had other means of food so they didnt have to kill snakes but thats what they require to live, so be it

but in america to use the excuse that "they need them for food" is beyond ridiculous

NennaMeerkat · 06-23-11, 09:03 PM

You posted information from another place so I will do the same....or I will link to it.

Rattlesnake Roundups - Matt Ellerbeck - The Snake Man

Jay · 06-23-11, 09:05 PM

I don't NEED deer, rabbit, duck or geese to survive, but I hunt them for their meat every year. I also hunt coyote every month for other purpose. I am beginning to understand the op he doesn't feel the same about snakes as us, which is fine. Every one has there own interest if I cared about my antiques I wouldn't have a good business keeping them all would I? Mind you I do keep some, as he has some pets.

NennaMeerkat · 06-23-11, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jay0133

I don't NEED deer, rabbit, duck or geese to survive, but I hunt them for their meat every year. I also hunt coyote every month for other purpose. I am beginning to understand the op he doesn't feel the same about snakes as us, which is fine. Every one has there own interest if I cared about my antiques I wouldn't have a good business keeping them all would I? Mind you I do keep some, as he has some pets.

I feel bad for those animals he deems for profit making only...they won't get the same treatment and respect as the animals he has for pets. At least your antiques get the same treatment no matter if they are there to be sold or for you to enjoy.

forza_inter · 06-23-11, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jay0133

I don't NEED deer, rabbit, duck or geese to survive, but I hunt them for their meat every year. I also hunt coyote every month for other purpose. I am beginning to understand the op he doesn't feel the same about snakes as us, which is fine. Every one has there own interest if I cared about my antiques I wouldn't have a good business keeping them all would I? Mind you I do keep some, as he has some pets.

fair enough....my question fo you....when you hunt deer, how many do you kill and take home? 1, 2, 3 if your lucky

do you round up an entire herd? do you massacre an entire area of deer? didnt think so

Jay · 06-23-11, 09:14 PM

That's where you're wrong. The antiques I keep are cleaned thoroughly with care and displayed. The antiques I sell are stored in boxes, dusted when shipped. Although I still respect them with what they are. When I buy antiques for my personal collection a lot of time and research goes into the said product, when I buy to sell I do little research take risks on values ect..

NennaMeerkat · 06-23-11, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jay0133

That's where you're wrong. The antiques I keep are cleaned thoroughly with care and displayed. The antiques I sell are stored in boxes, dusted when shipped. Although I still respect them with what they are. When I buy antiques for my personal collection a lot of time and research goes into the said product, when I buy to sell I do little research take risks on values ect..

Okay fair enough, but do you destroy or throw away a product for selling just because of a small flaw that you could have fixed? Even if you couldn't sell it for the same amount as if it was perfect?

infernalis · 06-23-11, 09:16 PM

This seems a good place to bring this up, The very first time I saw "Whale Wars" I was disgusted with the Japanese, after I thought more about it, I became disgusted with the sea shepherds.

See, to people in India, the cow is sacred, to the rest of us a cow is sacred as a yummy burger. Some cultures hold pigs on a pedestal while others barbecue them.

so who in the hell are we to judge those who eat "non conventional meats"?? just because we think it's "bad" to eat whale, to the Japanese whale is just another fish. (Yes I know whales are mammals) but my point is, what is OK in one culture, may not be OK in another.

Jay · 06-23-11, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by forza_inter

fair enough....my question fo you....when you hunt deer, how many do you kill and take home? 1, 2, 3 if your lucky

do you round up an entire herd? do you massacre an entire area of deer? didnt think so

Maybe I hunt with a tank? For deer just 1 if I'm lucky, none last year. But duck and rabbits take a huge hit. You have to consider where I live 70% of my towns population hunts as well.