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01-31-06, 02:17 AM
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I think we're getting a bit off topic. Meats for mass market consumption are driven by economic factors where CO2 gassing isn't as cost effective as other "humane slaughter methods". Let's keep it on point regarding rats/mice.
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02-04-06, 07:02 PM
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uh NO mouse/rat traps are not humane don't use those...
the blunt trauma method isn't as easy as it sounds, unless you get it just right the first time the animal is going to suffer terribly before dying. I botched it the first time I tried it and never, never again, the poor things back and two of its legs were broken but it was not killed.
I just buy frozen from people who use CO2
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02-04-06, 08:39 PM
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I don't know how you managed that one, it's really not that hard. Grab the tail and swing as hard as you possibly can at something hard, like a floor, wall or sink. I personally don't like killing other things, but i do what i have to. If you know, or even think you can't hit it hard enough don't do it there is almost always frozen available, or ask your LPS to do it for you.
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02-05-06, 11:47 AM
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We use to breed our own rats, mice, rabbits, and gerbils. We built a C02 gas chamber to kill them off in groups. It was fast and easy. As long as you feed in the gas slowly it is humane and they simply go to sleep before they die.
Most people who sell frozen rodents in bulk gas their rodents in the same way.
If you feed the gas in to fast it is very painful and at that point it is far from humane.
Our chamber has since been retired. Due to the number of feeders we need at this point it was just easier for us to buy them frozen.
Here are some pics of our set up just in case you want to build one of your own. The whole setup cost us about $50.
Last edited by ffollett; 02-05-06 at 11:49 AM..
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02-07-06, 02:06 PM
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I think the snake (?) would taste/smell a difference and not even touch the rat. Plus, since it is a natural waste product, wouldnt it be considered a poisonous gas?
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02-09-06, 05:53 PM
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Thanks ffollett for sharing the pics, methodology and experience in doing such a task.
The operative word in it's use is a "slow" gas feed, not just blasting it in. Something that I forgot to mention and my experience with CO2 leaking in the study.
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02-28-06, 03:52 PM
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I am a gas fitter and I would rilly not recomend that you use propane in your house it could be very bad for your belongings (boom) I use co2 I just use baking soada and viniger
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03-01-06, 03:42 PM
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bakin soda and vinegar r u serious??....
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03-01-06, 07:47 PM
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yes it works very well just like a volcano in science class
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03-24-06, 12:06 AM
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What about cervical dislocation..?
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03-24-06, 12:08 AM
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what about cervical dislocation?
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03-24-06, 12:09 AM
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sorry didnt mean to put it twice.
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03-24-06, 06:24 PM
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That works but it needs to be done right. It also gets time consuming when you are doing a large number of rats.
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03-24-06, 08:53 PM
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Yeah I dont have a lot of mice I just breed them in the summer for my one snake, let them grow up and then kill then. Im pretty sure im doing it right i use my finger against the neck and then pull the tail. They die right away I was just wondering if they can feel anything.
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03-26-06, 06:05 PM
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gassing rats
how would you do it with the baking soda and vinegar..?
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