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03-27-05, 08:24 PM
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Super Genius
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Humphrey, the difference is if one of the "Big Breeders" owns a ringer, it's a marker for pied, and if you own it, it's just a ringer.
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03-27-05, 08:26 PM
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But what IS a ringer, exactly? Is it JUST a marking on the saddle? Is it supposed to signify a possible het for something, or something else?
I know what it looks like... still not too sure what it is (or isn't). LOL
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03-27-05, 08:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by mykee
Humphrey, the difference is if one of the "Big Breeders" owns a ringer, it's a marker for pied, and if you own it, it's just a ringer.
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LOL! I had that feeling!
Spirit: It is a white spot or spots on the snake. It isn't a blue spot or spots on the snake. It isn't a green spot or spots on the snake. It isn't a purple spot or spots on the snake. *sigh* I could go on all day!
Hump.
PS Now I'm being a smartass! 
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"Nevermind tomorrow, I'm not promised today"-innocent bystander :medtoothy
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03-27-05, 09:40 PM
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Well if those stripes mean het for pied, I've got a whack of het for pieds. Males and females. YAY for me! I'll take pics later.
Hump.
PS. BTW I don't actually think they are hets, but they have these "markers".
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"Nevermind tomorrow, I'm not promised today"-innocent bystander :medtoothy
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03-27-05, 10:41 PM
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I am not interested in debating the validity of the marker theory especially since I don't have any pieds or hets... I was just passing on information.
Regardless, your reasoning is specious: just because you have some non-het snakes with the 'marker' this does not mean that some or all het peids do not have the 'marker.'
Consider this: all humans have hearts but it does not follow that a dog is a human just because it has a heart. This is the logic behind your sarcastic post.
P.S.
I also have one with the 'marker.'
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03-27-05, 11:45 PM
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LOL!
I am sorry you took it personal, I appreciate you passing on the info.
I am not interested in debating the validity either. I was joking because I have a bunch with this "marker". I am sorry to have a sense of humour, I didn't realize til now that I was the only one with one. Or maybe that's just a marker for @$$#0LE! LOL!
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"Nevermind tomorrow, I'm not promised today"-innocent bystander :medtoothy
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03-27-05, 11:52 PM
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Super Genius
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Atw; relax, either learn how to take a joke, or visit the "other" forum where rude, obnoxious behavior is not only tolerated but welcomed.
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03-28-05, 12:04 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by HumphreyBoagart
Well if those stripes mean het for pied, I've got a whack of het for pieds. Males and females. YAY for me! I'll take pics later.
Hump.
PS. BTW I don't actually think they are hets, but they have these "markers".
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ATW: Reread this post INCLUDING the PS part.
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1.4 Surinam(e) Bcc, 7.17 Ball Pythons, 2.6 Solomon Island Ground Boas, 2.2 Cornsnakes, 1.1 Colombian Bci, 1.2 Veiled Chameleons, 0.1 Uroplatus Sikorae, & lots of other creatures!!!
"Nevermind tomorrow, I'm not promised today"-innocent bystander :medtoothy
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03-28-05, 01:48 AM
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Here is just one of my many ball pythons with this "marker".
He is a Black back.
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1.4 Surinam(e) Bcc, 7.17 Ball Pythons, 2.6 Solomon Island Ground Boas, 2.2 Cornsnakes, 1.1 Colombian Bci, 1.2 Veiled Chameleons, 0.1 Uroplatus Sikorae, & lots of other creatures!!!
"Nevermind tomorrow, I'm not promised today"-innocent bystander :medtoothy
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03-28-05, 07:24 AM
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Hey Thanks Hump, I have never seen a belly like that. Not that i was really looking. If it is or is not a "marker" it looks cool.
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03-29-05, 04:45 AM
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Hey no problem Shawn! Glad you like his belly! There's a full body pic of him in my gallery gettin' cozy with his girlie-friend!
They're both blackbacks.
Humpty Hump.
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1.4 Surinam(e) Bcc, 7.17 Ball Pythons, 2.6 Solomon Island Ground Boas, 2.2 Cornsnakes, 1.1 Colombian Bci, 1.2 Veiled Chameleons, 0.1 Uroplatus Sikorae, & lots of other creatures!!!
"Nevermind tomorrow, I'm not promised today"-innocent bystander :medtoothy
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04-01-05, 01:10 AM
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Yes that is exacclty what a pied marker looks like but many normals have this too. Also many pieds have been produced from hets that don't have this marker. Is it all a bunch of BS? I don't know but my 4 hets came from very reputable breeders and they all have the markers.
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04-01-05, 03:35 AM
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Right on. I have a good feeling about this guy beeing something other than a normal. He is a black back, but the black is reddish like the red axanthics. That would be killer if it ended up being a piebald het or something like that. Is it a marker for anything else, or just piebalds? Now you've got me all hyped up about that! I wish I knew if it was a marker for something or not! AHHHHHH!!!! LOL
I guess I'll have to wait and see. : )
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1.4 Surinam(e) Bcc, 7.17 Ball Pythons, 2.6 Solomon Island Ground Boas, 2.2 Cornsnakes, 1.1 Colombian Bci, 1.2 Veiled Chameleons, 0.1 Uroplatus Sikorae, & lots of other creatures!!!
"Nevermind tomorrow, I'm not promised today"-innocent bystander :medtoothy
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04-02-05, 08:15 AM
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Location: Colorado
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Where did you get him? I would expect there to be a fair number of ch het pieds sprinkled in the huge number imported every year but at this point a lot of cb possible het pied male probably get sold as normals too. I bet most of your other assumed normals with marker tendencies aren't as pronounced as him (nice wide stripes etc.). Let us know if it seems to get passed on to about half of his offspring or not.
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