Restricted Firearms owners, check this out!

[Removed_2815]

Originally posted by Rikki
And I have watched a documentary on CNN about the gun violence, this is where I got my information RMBolton.....

Just letting you know that you misheard and are gravely misinformed. The average over the past 5-10 years is around 75 U.S. children (19 years and under) are shot with a gun each day, 15 of which die. A far cry from thousands a day...

Here's another one:
In a single year, 3,012 children and teens were killed by gunfire in the United States, according to the latest national data released in 2002. That is one child every three hours; eight children every day; and more than 50 children every week. And every year, at least 4 to 5 times as many kids and teens suffer from non-fatal firearm injuries.
-National Center for Health Statistics

These numbers are still incredibly high; anything above zero is high in my opinion, but thousands a day???

And, yes, quite the impressive display of marksmanship.

Ryan

[Rikki]

I did not mis hear it, other heard it as well and we were discussing it. Even if YOUR stats are true, thats 3,012 that could still be alive if it wasnt for guns

Im leaving this now, lets get back on topic!

[Removed_2815]

Dude, you're the one who took this post off topic, LOL!
They're not my stats, I didn't collect these data. They are nationally accepted figures (as in a kid gets shot, gets admitted to the hospital, the forms are filled out, and the figures get compiled annually). If you're going to argue against handguns then you might want to get your facts straight is all
Ryan

[Cruciform]

My money's on Ryan:

http://www.statehealthfacts.kff.org/...=United+States

[HeatherRose]

Are you taking bets, Mike?

[justinO]

some people just aren't willing to understand the concept on how firearms in general can be used as sporting equipment. For some people (myself included), target shooting is a major part of their lives, much like how herps are a major part of ours.

that's all i'm going to say on the subject.

Justin

[pablo111]

I was under the impression that a high caliber revolver like that had a lot more recoil and muzzle climb than in this video. Either this guy has steel arms or that is one seriously impact absorbing gun...

That reload was off the hook.

[justinO]

chances are it was a .38/.357 .. pretty light to begin with. Also, i'd be willing to be he was using hand-loaded ammo, so that means he could vary the amount of propellant used, thereby controlling speed and muzzle rise even more. I've shot a .44 magnum that barely passed an air rifle in velocity. You could hear the paper being hit at 20 yards.

Still, a very impressive video. I'd be curious to see how accurate he was too

[sneaky_boa]

guns and cars don't kill people....PEOPLE kill people!

Super cool video though...man that guy's FAST!

[gargoyle]

First of all, I was just trying to show what I thought were poeple that might share another of my hobbies "SPORT" shooting a video I thought was amazing.

Second guns aren't created for the purpose of "killing" they are designed for different purposes. target shooting, olympic shooting competition, self defense, hunting/food gathering.

Third........RIKKI...... I guess if you saw it on TV it must be true!!!! LOL I saw a movie that showed a 70foot ananconda hunting people for sport too.....that must be all that they do! LOL no offense but if you believe everything that you see on TV documentary or not, you really need to check yourself and start living in the real world!

Fourth... I realize that not everyone in this forum is going to agree with this sport, that is why I titled this thread what I did,,,, if you are just here to bitch, go troll somewhere else,,,,I didn't title the thread, "LETS TRASH OUR HERITAGE" NOW DID I

[BWSmith]

guns and cars don't kill people....PEOPLE kill people!

Actually, guns don't kill many people. Bullets do


There is no doubt that guns are dangerous. But so are venomous reptiles, retics and burms, cars, and a thousand other things when in the hands of irresponsible or dangerous people. The majority of crimes are not committed by individuals that went into a store and purchased a gun legally. Outlaw guns and only outlaws will have guns.

I lived in a bad part of Atlanta for a while. We got broke into 8 times in 6 months. I was home for one of these. I was armed. As soon as they realized this, they left and never came back.

Of course, i also shoot my handguns for sport. We have a range not too far away. But that is a bonus. The primary function is protection. A shotgun on my wife's side of the bed, a 9mm on mine, and a .40 cal CZ in my car. I have never had to use any of them, but there have been several times I was glad they were there.

Of course, it is my understanding that gun talk is not permitted on this forum, so I am sure this thread will be locked down soon.

[zero&stich]

That vid is Sa-weet!!
Those skills would come in handy for deer season.
Damn, when I saw that re-load, I think my jaw crashed down to the floor! LOL. Some crazy stuff. I like target shooting myself, but with a bow. , meaning the target is mounted to the tree, no 4 legged animals.

[munchy]

got damn!! 6 shots, a reload and 6 more shots all in 2.99.

[coldblooded]

Rikki:

You can't believe anything on CNN.

Mike

[Slannesh]

Originally posted by Rikki
Its nice, but when we really take the time to think about it; there is no point in even having such a gun. Im do not think that there is a real reason to keep guns, they are only created to kill and injure. Thousands of kids playing with guns are killed and injured ever day in the US alone. Not to mention all of the creatures (people and animals alike) who are just trying to live a normal life, while people feel the need to destroy. Put your self in the victims place for once. We would be alot better off with out weapons like so in this world, there are many other ways to "defend your self" as some like to say

Oh where to begin.

First off the incredible hyperbolie isn't really necessary.. "Thousands per day" Give me a friggin break. Yet another example of you totally talking out of your butt without even bothering to do a 30 second google search to back up your BS with some stats from a halfway respectable source.

An unfortunate number of people are killed unnecessarily each year in the US by unsecured or illegally used guns, that's very true. But let's put this in perspective:

(All stats taken from http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nv...sr53_05acc.pdf)

"In 2002 a total of 161,269 deaths were classified as injury related...

Motor Vehicle Traffic resulted in 44,065 accidental deaths.

Firearms resulted in 30,242 deaths Suicide and Homicide accounted for 56.6 and 39.1 percent respectively leaving 4.3 percent from all other causes which works out to 1300 'accidental' deaths

Poisoning: 26,435 deaths 66.4 percent of which were unintentional, 20.8 percent were suicides and 12.6 percent were of undetermined intent

Falls: 17,116 deaths 95% of which were unintentional"

Let's recap.

Accidental deaths due to firearms:
1,300
Accidental death due to falling:
16,260
Accidental death due to poisoning:
17,553
Accidental death due to Motor Vehicle accident:
44,065

Some quick math shows that motor vehicles are 33.89 times more likely to accidentally kill a person than a firearm.

We should ban all cars immediatly based on this information of course

I completely agree that it's sad for any death to occur, however the outcry that guns are the source of so many deaths blah blah is just a bunch of crap. Even when you add in the suicide AND homicide rates to the, by comparison, miniscule accidental rate, more people are killed in motor vehicle accidents than in all firearms related incidents combined. And let's not forget that all injury related deaths combined only account for 161,269 of the 2,443,387 deaths that occured in the US in 2002.

That's 6.6% overall and accidental death due to firearm accounted for only 0.0005% of all deaths in 2002.

As for the On topic portion of my post

That video was very cool.. SO fast! wow.